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Paul Ollinger

๐Ÿ‘ค Person
423 total appearances

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Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Um, there's that word again, gang, the, the team I had joined. at launch and I stuck around and I benefited from that. But I don't know, I just started working in a way that most people would find to be irrational. But when you're 28 and you don't have kids and you're single and like, what else are you gonna do?

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Well, they weren't mutually exclusive. I mean, I was also hoping to make a change there. And that wasn't the gig that paid me for the first, the first gig that paid was at Yahoo. You know, when, when, when Yahoo bought launch, we just, they just kept us alive. You know, we'd, we'd gone through the, the busting of the.com bubble, like, like everybody else.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Well, they weren't mutually exclusive. I mean, I was also hoping to make a change there. And that wasn't the gig that paid me for the first, the first gig that paid was at Yahoo. You know, when, when, when Yahoo bought launch, we just, they just kept us alive. You know, we'd, we'd gone through the, the busting of the.com bubble, like, like everybody else.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Well, they weren't mutually exclusive. I mean, I was also hoping to make a change there. And that wasn't the gig that paid me for the first, the first gig that paid was at Yahoo. You know, when, when, when Yahoo bought launch, we just, they just kept us alive. You know, we'd, we'd gone through the, the busting of the.com bubble, like, like everybody else.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And when Yahoo bought us, we had laid off, the company had laid off four fifths of the employees and I was lucky to make the cuts and, And we got to Yahoo and then Yahoo slowly started to come back. And I was very fortunate to be able to benefit off of that.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And when Yahoo bought us, we had laid off, the company had laid off four fifths of the employees and I was lucky to make the cuts and, And we got to Yahoo and then Yahoo slowly started to come back. And I was very fortunate to be able to benefit off of that.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And when Yahoo bought us, we had laid off, the company had laid off four fifths of the employees and I was lucky to make the cuts and, And we got to Yahoo and then Yahoo slowly started to come back. And I was very fortunate to be able to benefit off of that.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Well, I was very fortunate to not. not, uh, get the ax, but I could feel the breeze on my, on my neck, you know? And, and, you know, the first, what happened from like 98, what happened in 98, 99 was all this money was flowing around and companies were hiring people. They were growing way too fast. They were hiring people that it was kind of like, you know, the people doing mortgages in 2007.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Well, I was very fortunate to not. not, uh, get the ax, but I could feel the breeze on my, on my neck, you know? And, and, you know, the first, what happened from like 98, what happened in 98, 99 was all this money was flowing around and companies were hiring people. They were growing way too fast. They were hiring people that it was kind of like, you know, the people doing mortgages in 2007.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

Well, I was very fortunate to not. not, uh, get the ax, but I could feel the breeze on my, on my neck, you know? And, and, you know, the first, what happened from like 98, what happened in 98, 99 was all this money was flowing around and companies were hiring people. They were growing way too fast. They were hiring people that it was kind of like, you know, the people doing mortgages in 2007.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And it was like, you know, anybody with a heartbeat could be a realtor or, um, you know, it's still that way. Well, being the mortgage business, well, this market's probably making it a little harder, right? So what a downturn does is sort of gets you back to right size.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And it was like, you know, anybody with a heartbeat could be a realtor or, um, you know, it's still that way. Well, being the mortgage business, well, this market's probably making it a little harder, right? So what a downturn does is sort of gets you back to right size.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And it was like, you know, anybody with a heartbeat could be a realtor or, um, you know, it's still that way. Well, being the mortgage business, well, this market's probably making it a little harder, right? So what a downturn does is sort of gets you back to right size.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And so the first round of layoffs, it's like, well, those people probably weren't the right people to be here in the first place. But then like the second and the third round, you start going, oh man, we're letting some good people go here. Like nobody is safe. And if there had been another round of layoffs, I wouldn't have made it right. Like it was, it was down to like family members.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And so the first round of layoffs, it's like, well, those people probably weren't the right people to be here in the first place. But then like the second and the third round, you start going, oh man, we're letting some good people go here. Like nobody is safe. And if there had been another round of layoffs, I wouldn't have made it right. Like it was, it was down to like family members.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

And so the first round of layoffs, it's like, well, those people probably weren't the right people to be here in the first place. But then like the second and the third round, you start going, oh man, we're letting some good people go here. Like nobody is safe. And if there had been another round of layoffs, I wouldn't have made it right. Like it was, it was down to like family members.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

So, so it was, you know, so the, the, but, but you know, what I think I saw was that people, people's attitude was the differentiator in many cases. people that were like doing their, everything they could to succeed, even if they weren't the most talented people. And I would count, I mean, I'm a talented guy.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

So, so it was, you know, so the, the, but, but you know, what I think I saw was that people, people's attitude was the differentiator in many cases. people that were like doing their, everything they could to succeed, even if they weren't the most talented people. And I would count, I mean, I'm a talented guy.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

So, so it was, you know, so the, the, but, but you know, what I think I saw was that people, people's attitude was the differentiator in many cases. people that were like doing their, everything they could to succeed, even if they weren't the most talented people. And I would count, I mean, I'm a talented guy.

Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Paul Ollinger: From Sibling Rivalry to Comedy and Career Success

I work hard, but like, I think my hard work kept me around more than my talent did in some of those interviews or some of those layoffs. And so I think that attitude and, and hard work,