Paul Rodriguez

Yeah.

So for them, it was actually harder to make, remake this shoe again than it was just to make a shoe from scratch.

Yeah.

So for me, it wasn't too much work for them.

Shout out to those guys.

Cause they worked hard and made it happen.

Sneakers, apparel, you know, product.

Yeah, in our world, that's really where we make our living.

Not really.

No, competition money these days, it's pretty low.

There was a period there where it was like, you know, you could win 100, 150 grand in the street league contest, but I just think they couldn't sustain that kind of level payout.

Yeah, they couldn't sustain it.

So I think it's down back to like 20, 25 grand, which is, of course, a nice little payday for the day, but just for your everyday bills, yeah.

yeah because you got to travel you got to train all those costs the food yeah yeah yeah so it's just um it's it's it's too hard to do it just off contest but if you if you're winning contests consistently you'll get sponsors so that that's where all the skaters you know make their make their money because so you get a sneaker sponsor clothing sponsor so you're just helping to push product and when did that start happening for you was it after that first x games win or was it before that

No, it was early for me.

I was very lucky.

I turned pro at 17.

And I was like, you know, back then skateboarding wasn't as big as it is now.

I mean, there was the X Games, it wasn't as big a deal as it later became.

But it was just kind of like a small core industry.