Paul Rosolie

You had colonial missionaries in the 1600s, 1700s.

Then you had the rubber barons, the late 1800s into the 1900s, just periods of extraction and domination and cruelty.

And these tribes, their grandparents must have told them, when the outside world comes, you shoot first.

That's the only thing that's going to keep you alive.

Do you think the memory of that, those violent encounters, is defining to how they think about the world?

Yeah, because even in my lifetime there, in the 20 years I've spent in the Amazon, Ignacio was shot in the head.

My friend Victor survived a violent encounter where they murdered somebody on a beach.

I mean, they've shot numerous people.

They've even shot people who are trying to help them.

People are trying to give them clothing and bananas.

They've just they call it porcupining them where they find a body on the beach with so many arrows that when they fall over, all the arrows are sticking up.

And so they think, and they'll do it out of curiosity too, where it's like, hey, you're wearing a suit.

That's weird.

We've never seen anybody in a black and white suit.

And then get a clothing.

You know, the way Teddy Roosevelt would shoot a bird for science.

They're like, they'll just want, they just want to look at you.

And so they're operating on a different, they don't have a moral system that we have or understand.

They're just...

They're truly wild.