Paul Rosolie

He went to the Amazon with Jane.

He supported Jungle Keepers.

He supported the Sea Shepherd.

And so he really went out and said, okay, what are the environmental projects that are doing the most good?

And where do I want to put my resources?

And it's like, everyone always whines about that.

Like, how come these guys don't?

And it's like, he did.

And he got a lot done.

And then he went and visited all those projects, sea turtles and Indonesian orangutans and working with Jane.

And so then that book is like sort of a state of the union on where conservation's at.

And there's a lot of knowledge about what different, how all the different strategies, it's so different protecting

sea turtle eggs versus trying to save a river in the amazon versus jane's sort of global message of hope and then he has a guy in there who's trying to save a specific part of i think sumatra and it's like just amazing stuff the congo the congo and then he actually took the time to go to these places and see the operations on the ground and uh he's still working with him yeah well that's sort of the

You know, it, the way it happened in my life was the one time I quit conservation was right around the time COVID hit and I was going through a divorce and I'm like 30 some 32 years old and I had no job, no nothing.

JJ was JJ's mom had COVID Don Ignacio.

The shaman had COVID Pico's leg was coming off.

It was like, nothing was working.

Nobody could go anywhere.

And I called most and I was like, I was like, I quit.

I was like, we're never going to go back to the jungle.