Paul Rosolie

It's that we can...

money's you know that money means tuna cans and gasoline and and being able to like buy shoes you know it's like we you know we never had those things before we're just living in the jungle watching our bodies decay and he was like no i know how to run a company and so i can tell what you guys need to run an organization and he

did that and then has stuck by us.

And he came weeks ago, he came not that long ago to the Amazon and we took him around and he looked around and he went, I've never seen people, because when he started, he said, you guys remind me of a startup.

He said, you're a mess.

And that was really right before Stefan had come in.

And so now he's seeing ranger teams and boats going up and down and we have complex systems and a donor program and all these things are working well and we're actually making progress and we have annual reports and all this data.

And he's like, yo, you can, you know, he says people have donor fatigue where they donate money and they don't know where it's going.

And he goes here, he's like, they can see what's happening.

And so having someone like Dax in your corner is a good miracle, really.

In the book, it's going to sound... Again, a lot of the things that happen to me in my life sound like bad writing.

You know in the movie when they're like, they got the gun against their head and they're on the ground and you go, they're not getting out of this one.

And then someone bursts through the door and saves them.

And it's like, that's just happened too many times to me.

And it sounds like bad writing, but it's...

Well, Dan, first of all, that picture I showed you where I'm in the tree, because I told you the story about with JJ, where I climbed the giant tree.

Well, this is years later.

I climbed it with Dan.

Dan was there.

And so he flew the drone up and so got me in the tree.