Paul Rosolie

And if you clear the interior of the landing strip, the trees are still meeting overhead.

And so you can't fly over and see down.

which is the same reason we didn't know about the road that was going to the ancient forest because overhead the trees are meeting.

So you're not going to see it on satellite.

You're not going to see it from a plane.

And these pilots, these bush pilots fly in and they'll just duck in under the canopy, land their plane, load up, and then they fly out.

I mean, expert pilots.

So it's impossible to detect.

It's almost impossible to detect.

We're working with people now.

It's this arms race.

They were going, okay, there are drone programs.

I talked to someone that has a different type of drone, a 16-foot drone that uses the thermals to climb up and has solar panels on the wings and flies for two weeks at a time.

It's like a glider that recharges itself.

and it'll keep constant imagery so we'll get up to the almost up to the moment data on disturbances in the canopy and it's like well that'll be a first-hand alert system but then we got to get the police out there which as you know a two-day expedition by boat and it's the only way and so the local police force there may be dedicated but putting people on a multi-day expedition to go get shot at in the jungle is nobody's idea of a good time

That tree, you've met that tree.

She's a good one.

Her base is at least as big as this room.

She's probably about 160 something feet tall.

When you're looking at these giant buttress roots going up, which had been doing for 18 years at that point,