Paul Rosolie

And I'll go, okay, and then I'll go, okay, where did that happen again?

I go, okay, I'll go to that page, and I'll go, okay, so what exactly did that happen?

Then you get the laptop.

So it's brain to paper to laptop, always paper in between.

Do you iterate?

That's where Stephen King was right because I look at writing like sculpting.

You have to have something to sculpt.

When you're thinking of a story, I love listening to great storytellers and I actually love listening to bad stories, just like I like watching bad movies to see what they did wrong.

When you listen to someone that starts a story and they have you hooked from the second they start, and then you're like, wait, but how did that happen?

Why was that happening?

What happened next?

And they keep you going and they drop the information perfectly.

And so every now and then you figure that out in that moment of inspiration.

So then I have my facts written down here and then I'll, you know, I'll, I'll do an outline on a page or something, but then I have to get it all out of me with a pen.

Then I can move to

And I'll almost close my eyes.

I'll almost just close my eyes and write the story out.

I just need to... You're making the... You're literally making your clay.

And so it's like you make the shape of the thing before you... And then editing is the giving it details.

So you do take passes like... Oh my God, yes.