Paul Rouse

There was a soccer competition, which was won by the Italians with a group of students.

And again, this is looking forward.

The Italians had staged the World Student Games twice under Mussolini.

So this is about the creation of a new generation who are coming in imbued with these ideas that would not just be Italian students.

who are thinking these things, but also students who come from around the world to come to Italy to see the success of it and bring home to their countries a benign understanding and indeed a kind of a certain awe of what is being created in this new Rome, which is shown on the newsreels that we see around the place.

So he sends a team there, an Italian Olympic team, they come forward, but they win the soccer and they play, they play really, really well.

And, and

It is true, though, it's at a different level because the soccer in the World Cup by this point is restricted to amateurs, whereas the soccer in the Olympic Games is restricted to amateurs, whereas in the World Cup it's professionals.

Is that right?

Yeah.

Yeah, they try and basically take half of one team, put it with half of the other team.

And anybody who's ever managed a sports team knows just how difficult that is.

But it is so striking.

The 36 Berlin Olympics final, Italy beat Austria 2-1.

And Austria doesn't even exist by the time of the 38 World Cup when it comes to playing.

They're absorbed into it.

And this World Cup...

This 38 World Cup is really interesting.

I think we have to say it's something of an afterthought from 34.

And it's interesting to look at it about what's going to come, about what comes next.