Paul Rouse

It is quite remarkable.

But if you look at the word, the word comes from England.

It was used in England from the 1890s onwards.

all the way through to the 1980s.

In research for this series, I went back and I looked at preview shows of the World Cup.

A 1978 preview show, Kevin Keegan refers to soccer in his ITV punditry.

On the title page of Matt Busby's autobiography from 1973, soccer and football is used interchangeably.

This is something that changed

in the 1990s, but in a world where we consider that there are sports which exist beyond this island, the island on which we are filming, there are other football games.

So as shorthand, I call association football soccer, but in the town I'm from, Tullamore and Offaly, football is Gaelic football.

Well, Mussolini was promising a new world and he looked for a distinction from what he considered the failed regime.

This is a tried and tested technique across the world from regimes who seek to start anew.

They present the old world as being failed.

They present it as being a dying country full of people who are just weak.

And Mussolini, to an almost cartoonish extent, tried to project

virility, tried to project energy and dynamism and discipline and health.

And this was in contradistinction to what had been there previously.

And it led to when you see the footage now of Mussolini or you see the photographs of him, it's almost cartoonish in its exaggerated nature in the histrionics were there.

But it must never be forgotten the extent to which he was a cruel and brutal

individual truly ruthless in what he wished to do and the fact that almost in the beginning he wanted war but sport was part of the whole projection of what he was trying to do in creating as he saw it and knew italy so there's sort of two elements to that aren't there i think one is i mean he mentioned health