Paul Stamets

So there's resistance to these results?

I mean publicly.

Like you're saying you can't make these claims, but if you have results.

So could you elaborate on what the resistance is?

I wonder if that would also help animal agriculture because the ubiquitous use of antibiotics is a real concern with people, with cows and with chickens.

Yeah, I've heard that from people that are deeply connected to that industry that there was a bunch of euthanizations.

It didn't have to happen.

It didn't have to happen.

Yeah, and they did it.

And they inflated this whole concept because the numbers got grossly inflated because they were euthanizing chickens for profit.

It's also these vaccine manufacturers are immune to the financial consequences of the side effects.

But we need real data to be able to make that assessment.

And science shouldn't be this ideological or ideologically captured thing.

Yeah, well, it's pushed just to scare people into compliance.

And that's the whole idea.

Having these pejoratives and throw them around and no one wants to be labeled that.

And so you immediately get scared.

Yeah.

How could that be bad?

That's better.