Paula Levine

From 30 for 30 Podcasts, this is Murder at the U. Episode 3, Everybody's a Suspect.

Memory is an imperfect record of the past.

Neuroscience tells us that every time we recall a memory, we write over the previous version.

So our recollection of past events is always a patchwork of stories we've told and retold.

And the more time passes, the harder it can be to get at the truth of what happened.

When we started reporting the story, more than a decade had passed since Brian's murder.

So every time we interviewed someone, we had to consider the question, how accurate are these memories?

In the first year of our reporting, producer Dan Arruda was doing most of those interviews.

Dan, tell me about the first big break you had in your reporting.

Okay, so in 2018,

I had been trying to sit down and speak with as many of Brian's teammates as possible.

What did Chris tell you about the night of the murder?

So what was it that he remembered?

This would have been how long before Brian shot?

What did he overhear from that phone call?

You took it as come see me then as if you want to fight.

And what did Brian do after getting that phone call?

He immediately realizes that he's got information that needs to be out.

What was your reaction when Chris told you about this phone call?

In the end, this overheard call would turn out to be important, and in ways none of us expected.