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Or I know exactly what's going on because this is just a distraction from the Epstein files.

That's kind of like a cop out for me.

You're ignoring a lot of other stuff that's happening.

I know how you feel about that.

And I don't know if you've seen lately, though, because she's been on different huge podcasts recently where she's been more open about her experiences.

Dr. Julia Mossbridge.

She was on with Julian Dory in a podcast, and she spoke about a lot of stuff that happened to her.

She's from a different program compared to Gate.

It's called the SOAR program.

program she was also on rogan talking about this and i think that there is a difference of opinion between for example what jake barber has spoken about with uh jesse about these um people with psy abilities that have been taken from disaster zones and all that stuff and uh when i spoke to dr mosbridge on the channel she she was like i i love jake and all that but i think that

um there needs to be a different framing of that because there has been a lot of abuse towards people because i've experienced it and and it's like you pause there and you think about the epstein stuff and you go like so

there's a correlation there or a direct link that would be pretty shocking to people for anybody and and this gate program that has existed for a while seems to be like a screening sort of program to uh get people who have these abilities uh like on from an early age they also seem to catch them which is pretty

startling to me like they must have some kind of a system to you know it is gate but like they must have some kind of like a an identification sort of system from an early age of those kids and and i

And I think we should talk about that.

I don't think we should ignore it.

And the go-to reaction when you start even entertaining the idea to speak of this is instant like, nah, that's too much.

I don't think that's real, you know?

That the numbers did go up for a lot of people that podcast in these topics, but the ones that went up are like the star seed kids and all those people that talk about that shit.

And because people naturally, when they hear about stuff that is like outside of their worldview and it's way too fantastical,

They veer towards those topics instead of trying to remain level-headed.