Payne Lindsey

Never.

I mean, he says it. He says it. He's proud of it.

I mean, he says it. He says it. He's proud of it.

I mean, he says it. He says it. He's proud of it.

I'm Sarah Trelevan, and for over a year, I've been working on one of the most complex stories I've ever covered. There was somebody out there who's faking pregnancies. I started, like, warning everybody. Every doula that I know. It was fake. No pregnancy. And the deeper I dig, the more questions I unearth. How long has she been doing this?

I'm Sarah Trelevan, and for over a year, I've been working on one of the most complex stories I've ever covered. There was somebody out there who's faking pregnancies. I started, like, warning everybody. Every doula that I know. It was fake. No pregnancy. And the deeper I dig, the more questions I unearth. How long has she been doing this?

I'm Sarah Trelevan, and for over a year, I've been working on one of the most complex stories I've ever covered. There was somebody out there who's faking pregnancies. I started, like, warning everybody. Every doula that I know. It was fake. No pregnancy. And the deeper I dig, the more questions I unearth. How long has she been doing this?

From CBC and the BBC World Service, The Con, Caitlin's Baby. It's a long story. Settle in. Available now.

From CBC and the BBC World Service, The Con, Caitlin's Baby. It's a long story. Settle in. Available now.

From CBC and the BBC World Service, The Con, Caitlin's Baby. It's a long story. Settle in. Available now.

On my personal – yeah.

On my personal – yeah.

On my personal – yeah.

Of course.

Of course.

Of course.