Pedro

Yes.

And then you get the C-list and D-list and E-list celebrities.

The cast this year are like the E-list of the Logies.

Yeah, because they've already tried to.

Some have been on TV already.

Some have been doing other stuff.

They've tried to be famous, but they haven't quite cracked it yet.

I mean, known is a bit of a loose term.

I would probably say Julia.

I think her surname is Vogel.

Apparently.

I've never heard of her.

She's no Waleed Ali, but she's Julia Vogel.

And she did have a moment on the project where she actually interviewed a very, very big international star.

Do you want to take a guess at who it is?

incorrect close oh yeah hugh grant is that english famous okay old all right well are you gonna play me that yeah do you wanna hear it here it is when you were filming obviously we know that paddington was done with a lot of cgi what were you actually looking at uh well there were options there was a bear's head on a stick which was extremely frightening

Yeah, there's not much in there.

movie stars when they come to town the project just send this chick out exactly right but she's not that boring even though she's like a little bit boring she's actually quite inspirational oh because what she does is she runs this business where she teaches people how to have confidence in front of a camera

okay and she instructs people like oh don't use the selfie camera use the other camera on the phone you know the back camera all that type of stuff is this the thing is this something that anybody needs to be taught yeah she runs like full courses and seminars about how to take a selfie she has clients she boasts about her clients on yeah on instagram and she even drops inspirational quotes do you want to hear one oh go on then i want to share with you a life-changing tip

All you need to know, it's just the tip.