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Peggy Cohen-Ketnes

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100 total appearances

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The Daily
‘The Protocol’: The Story Behind Medical Care for Transgender Kids

Because we didn't want to have all kinds of disasters right from the beginning. But in much of these decisions, knowing the kids was very helpful. You just see what's happening. I mean, look at FG. Yeah. If you see how well they're doing, you know, it could not be completely wrong. It's just that exactly what you have to do with what kid, that's the challenge.

The Daily
‘The Protocol’: The Story Behind Medical Care for Transgender Kids

Because we didn't want to have all kinds of disasters right from the beginning. But in much of these decisions, knowing the kids was very helpful. You just see what's happening. I mean, look at FG. Yeah. If you see how well they're doing, you know, it could not be completely wrong. It's just that exactly what you have to do with what kid, that's the challenge.

The Daily
‘The Protocol’: The Story Behind Medical Care for Transgender Kids

Hello. Good to see you. Hi. Hello. I'm Austin. I'm Manalu. Hello. Hello.

The Daily
‘The Protocol’: The Story Behind Medical Care for Transgender Kids

Hello. Good to see you. Hi. Hello. I'm Austin. I'm Manalu. Hello. Hello.

The Protocol
The Beginning

It's only been about two decades since trans and gender nonconforming kids in the U.S. have been able to get medical treatment to transition. Now, the federal government is looking to end it. And the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the issue in the coming weeks.

The Protocol
The Beginning

It's only been about two decades since trans and gender nonconforming kids in the U.S. have been able to get medical treatment to transition. Now, the federal government is looking to end it. And the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the issue in the coming weeks.

The Protocol
The Beginning

No. I don't think so. This is a story of how we got here. It's a story I've been reporting with my colleague Azeen Gureshi, a science and gender reporter, for nearly two years. And it's a story she's been reporting for much longer. And from the beginning, she's been telling me this is not just a story about politics. It's a story about medicine.

The Protocol
The Beginning

No. I don't think so. This is a story of how we got here. It's a story I've been reporting with my colleague Azeen Gureshi, a science and gender reporter, for nearly two years. And it's a story she's been reporting for much longer. And from the beginning, she's been telling me this is not just a story about politics. It's a story about medicine.

The Protocol
The Beginning

About a new kind of treatment for a small group of kids. How it came to be. Who it was meant to help. How that was codified into a protocol that spread around the world. and how, in the time since, the medicine and the politics have become impossibly entangled. From the New York Times, I'm Austin Mitchell. This is The Protocol with Azeem Qureshi. Part One. The Beginning.

The Protocol
The Beginning

About a new kind of treatment for a small group of kids. How it came to be. Who it was meant to help. How that was codified into a protocol that spread around the world. and how, in the time since, the medicine and the politics have become impossibly entangled. From the New York Times, I'm Austin Mitchell. This is The Protocol with Azeem Qureshi. Part One. The Beginning.

The Protocol
The Beginning

Okay, so where does this story start then in your mind?

The Protocol
The Beginning

Okay, so where does this story start then in your mind?

The Protocol
The Beginning

And those professionals would be trying to kind of convince these people that they... Yeah, kind of talk them out of it.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And those professionals would be trying to kind of convince these people that they... Yeah, kind of talk them out of it.

The Protocol
The Beginning

Right. A turning point.

The Protocol
The Beginning

Right. A turning point.

The Protocol
The Beginning

I don't know exactly how you will refer to him. In 1990, a 16-year-old kid showed up at Peggy's office.

The Protocol
The Beginning

I don't know exactly how you will refer to him. In 1990, a 16-year-old kid showed up at Peggy's office.

The Protocol
The Beginning

His voice. He knows I'm recording, right?

The Protocol
The Beginning

His voice. He knows I'm recording, right?