Penn Badgley

enter into a different kind of relationship. One that we don't see a lot. You know, we don't see it modeled a lot, hardly ever. You know, for reasons that have to do more with like what it takes to tell a good story than reality, you know, in movies and TV and books and stuff. So then you have to think to yourself like, well, what is a relationship for? Not just like, what am I in this for?

enter into a different kind of relationship. One that we don't see a lot. You know, we don't see it modeled a lot, hardly ever. You know, for reasons that have to do more with like what it takes to tell a good story than reality, you know, in movies and TV and books and stuff. So then you have to think to yourself like, well, what is a relationship for? Not just like, what am I in this for?

enter into a different kind of relationship. One that we don't see a lot. You know, we don't see it modeled a lot, hardly ever. You know, for reasons that have to do more with like what it takes to tell a good story than reality, you know, in movies and TV and books and stuff. So then you have to think to yourself like, well, what is a relationship for? Not just like, what am I in this for?

What is a relationship for? That's also a question I pose. What is a relationship for? Not just what is it doing for you? What are relationships for? And at some point, I think you just have to realize that you're developing your own narratives and biases that have to be kind of constantly reshaped. You have to check in with them. And so it just means, it's just another level of listening.

What is a relationship for? That's also a question I pose. What is a relationship for? Not just what is it doing for you? What are relationships for? And at some point, I think you just have to realize that you're developing your own narratives and biases that have to be kind of constantly reshaped. You have to check in with them. And so it just means, it's just another level of listening.

What is a relationship for? That's also a question I pose. What is a relationship for? Not just what is it doing for you? What are relationships for? And at some point, I think you just have to realize that you're developing your own narratives and biases that have to be kind of constantly reshaped. You have to check in with them. And so it just means, it's just another level of listening.

And then once you get into parenting, it's... It just adds a level of complexity that's really beautiful and rewarding. When you're parenting, actually, sometimes it can be really practical stuff. We have to schedule time for any kind of intimacy we want to have. If we want to go out, that needs to be in that calendar. And you have to find childcare. It's all this stuff. It's very real.

And then once you get into parenting, it's... It just adds a level of complexity that's really beautiful and rewarding. When you're parenting, actually, sometimes it can be really practical stuff. We have to schedule time for any kind of intimacy we want to have. If we want to go out, that needs to be in that calendar. And you have to find childcare. It's all this stuff. It's very real.

And then once you get into parenting, it's... It just adds a level of complexity that's really beautiful and rewarding. When you're parenting, actually, sometimes it can be really practical stuff. We have to schedule time for any kind of intimacy we want to have. If we want to go out, that needs to be in that calendar. And you have to find childcare. It's all this stuff. It's very real.

And that can actually be a surprising amount of work.

And that can actually be a surprising amount of work.

And that can actually be a surprising amount of work.

Well, I didn't. And I mean, I think, so like the, when we first met, it was kind of, it was immediate. And before we had time to think i think we just we wanted to be together in in the deepest way and i wanted to be there for her son um in whatever way was best his father's always been in his life um

Well, I didn't. And I mean, I think, so like the, when we first met, it was kind of, it was immediate. And before we had time to think i think we just we wanted to be together in in the deepest way and i wanted to be there for her son um in whatever way was best his father's always been in his life um

Well, I didn't. And I mean, I think, so like the, when we first met, it was kind of, it was immediate. And before we had time to think i think we just we wanted to be together in in the deepest way and i wanted to be there for her son um in whatever way was best his father's always been in his life um

But then the cultural dating laws, which I never abided by, I never understood, but you were pressuring me. I was like, I need to sow my wild oats. What am I doing with this woman with a child? But, you know, I was 28, I think, maybe 27. And I really did think. Is it right for me to be getting into a relationship with a woman who has a child? So the stakes were always significant there.

But then the cultural dating laws, which I never abided by, I never understood, but you were pressuring me. I was like, I need to sow my wild oats. What am I doing with this woman with a child? But, you know, I was 28, I think, maybe 27. And I really did think. Is it right for me to be getting into a relationship with a woman who has a child? So the stakes were always significant there.

But then the cultural dating laws, which I never abided by, I never understood, but you were pressuring me. I was like, I need to sow my wild oats. What am I doing with this woman with a child? But, you know, I was 28, I think, maybe 27. And I really did think. Is it right for me to be getting into a relationship with a woman who has a child? So the stakes were always significant there.

We both felt that. And so we both actually, after an immediate intense connection and not thinking about it, we then sort of like, we need to think about this more.

We both felt that. And so we both actually, after an immediate intense connection and not thinking about it, we then sort of like, we need to think about this more.