Penn Holderness

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. So look, I love my wife and, you know, she has anxiety and I've known that for a long time. And when you get an explanation of something, it's so much easier to live with, to understand and also to be able to provide some empathy. Yeah.

And so it was really nice for me to learn a little bit about perimenopause so that not only could I understand and have empathy, but also, and we do this a lot in our life, as long as she's okay with it, to laugh at it. And we want to give people permission to have a little fun and maybe laugh at it as well, which is kind of how our content came about, about perimenopause.

Well, okay, a couple of weeks ago, you said that we all need a 101 on menopause. Yeah, yeah. Men need, I guess, whatever's below that, like a 000. We need to learn, right? Yeah. And I got to give Dr. Malone credit.

One of the first times I really started to learn about perimenopause, we were at South by Southwest, and we went to a symposium where Dr. Malone was with Dr. Haver and 100 other women who were all very outspoken. They were very frustrated with the way that healthcare has let them down. Yeah. And the fact that they were being marginalized by doctors sometimes, but they were not mad at me.

They were thrilled that I was there. I was the only dude there. And almost every single one of them came up to me and thanked me. So guys, if you show a little curiosity and a little bit of empathy, your wives are going to be grateful. And it's great when your wives are grateful.

Menopause, yes.