Penny Smith

So I am to manage the care of the patient by bringing in the appropriate team members.

For addressing the person's spiritual needs. And a lot of times people will just out of hand refuse the chaplain. And I really try to get them to not do that. And I can come from a place of experience with that because having not been religious before, Before I became a hospice nurse, I was going in for major surgery, and the chaplain came to speak with me. It was a military hospital.

For addressing the person's spiritual needs. And a lot of times people will just out of hand refuse the chaplain. And I really try to get them to not do that. And I can come from a place of experience with that because having not been religious before, Before I became a hospice nurse, I was going in for major surgery, and the chaplain came to speak with me. It was a military hospital.

For addressing the person's spiritual needs. And a lot of times people will just out of hand refuse the chaplain. And I really try to get them to not do that. And I can come from a place of experience with that because having not been religious before, Before I became a hospice nurse, I was going in for major surgery, and the chaplain came to speak with me. It was a military hospital.

He was a priest, so he had a military outfit on with a priest collar, and I thought he was coming to minister to me because he thought I was going to die, and it freaked me out. I was like, I don't want somebody like trying to convert me, you know, and that's not what they do.

He was a priest, so he had a military outfit on with a priest collar, and I thought he was coming to minister to me because he thought I was going to die, and it freaked me out. I was like, I don't want somebody like trying to convert me, you know, and that's not what they do.

He was a priest, so he had a military outfit on with a priest collar, and I thought he was coming to minister to me because he thought I was going to die, and it freaked me out. I was like, I don't want somebody like trying to convert me, you know, and that's not what they do.

And so that's what's really important to me when I'm talking with families is to educate them that the chaplain is not going to try to convert you. We have atheist chaplains in hospice. We have Jewish chaplains. We have Catholic chaplains. We have, you know, every denomination that there is, Buddhist, Muslim, they're all

And so that's what's really important to me when I'm talking with families is to educate them that the chaplain is not going to try to convert you. We have atheist chaplains in hospice. We have Jewish chaplains. We have Catholic chaplains. We have, you know, every denomination that there is, Buddhist, Muslim, they're all

And so that's what's really important to me when I'm talking with families is to educate them that the chaplain is not going to try to convert you. We have atheist chaplains in hospice. We have Jewish chaplains. We have Catholic chaplains. We have, you know, every denomination that there is, Buddhist, Muslim, they're all

And they're experts in not only their area of religion that they practice, but all areas of religion and spirituality. So they will help the patient with whatever their identified, self-identified, not what the family identifies, but their self-identified religious or spiritual needs are.

And they're experts in not only their area of religion that they practice, but all areas of religion and spirituality. So they will help the patient with whatever their identified, self-identified, not what the family identifies, but their self-identified religious or spiritual needs are.

And they're experts in not only their area of religion that they practice, but all areas of religion and spirituality. So they will help the patient with whatever their identified, self-identified, not what the family identifies, but their self-identified religious or spiritual needs are.

But religion is rooted in spirituality.

But religion is rooted in spirituality.

But religion is rooted in spirituality.

And like I said, there are atheist chaplains. So it's not just because some of them are religious, but religion and spirituality are connected to each other.

And like I said, there are atheist chaplains. So it's not just because some of them are religious, but religion and spirituality are connected to each other.

And like I said, there are atheist chaplains. So it's not just because some of them are religious, but religion and spirituality are connected to each other.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, any chaplain who is proselytizing shouldn't be a chaplain because that's not their job to do that. Right, right. They're knowledgeable in all religion. Like I said, they have a master's degree in divinity. They are knowledgeable in religion, but also as a part of their training, they should know that it's not their job to be pushing their belief onto their patient.