Penny Smith

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, any chaplain who is proselytizing shouldn't be a chaplain because that's not their job to do that. Right, right. They're knowledgeable in all religion. Like I said, they have a master's degree in divinity. They are knowledgeable in religion, but also as a part of their training, they should know that it's not their job to be pushing their belief onto their patient.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, any chaplain who is proselytizing shouldn't be a chaplain because that's not their job to do that. Right, right. They're knowledgeable in all religion. Like I said, they have a master's degree in divinity. They are knowledgeable in religion, but also as a part of their training, they should know that it's not their job to be pushing their belief onto their patient.

If they are, they're unethical and they shouldn't be a chaplain.

If they are, they're unethical and they shouldn't be a chaplain.

If they are, they're unethical and they shouldn't be a chaplain.

I always start from a place of wanting to find out where they're at with understanding what's going on. And from there going to what do you want to know? And then meeting them where they're at. And sometimes they don't want to know. They don't want to talk about it. So the don'ts are don't go places with them if they're not ready for that.

I always start from a place of wanting to find out where they're at with understanding what's going on. And from there going to what do you want to know? And then meeting them where they're at. And sometimes they don't want to know. They don't want to talk about it. So the don'ts are don't go places with them if they're not ready for that.

I always start from a place of wanting to find out where they're at with understanding what's going on. And from there going to what do you want to know? And then meeting them where they're at. And sometimes they don't want to know. They don't want to talk about it. So the don'ts are don't go places with them if they're not ready for that.

You have to allow them to determine what they're comfortable with talking about. But definitely, what do you understand about this? Because I've had patients who came on to hospice who didn't know that they were dying. I had a patient in the care center who was 28 years old with colon cancer. And she came in because she had severe constipation. And so she came in and we got her...

You have to allow them to determine what they're comfortable with talking about. But definitely, what do you understand about this? Because I've had patients who came on to hospice who didn't know that they were dying. I had a patient in the care center who was 28 years old with colon cancer. And she came in because she had severe constipation. And so she came in and we got her...

You have to allow them to determine what they're comfortable with talking about. But definitely, what do you understand about this? Because I've had patients who came on to hospice who didn't know that they were dying. I had a patient in the care center who was 28 years old with colon cancer. And she came in because she had severe constipation. And so she came in and we got her...

constipation taken care of. And I was packaging all her medications up for her to go home. And she came out to the nurse's station and I said, oh, I'm just getting your meds ready for you to go home today. And I thought she'd be like thrilled she's going home. And she looked at the medications and she said, those are all for me? And I said, yeah.

constipation taken care of. And I was packaging all her medications up for her to go home. And she came out to the nurse's station and I said, oh, I'm just getting your meds ready for you to go home today. And I thought she'd be like thrilled she's going home. And she looked at the medications and she said, those are all for me? And I said, yeah.

constipation taken care of. And I was packaging all her medications up for her to go home. And she came out to the nurse's station and I said, oh, I'm just getting your meds ready for you to go home today. And I thought she'd be like thrilled she's going home. And she looked at the medications and she said, those are all for me? And I said, yeah.

And she said, I wasn't on anything before I came here. Why do I have to be on all these meds? And I said, well, the doctor thinks that you have weeks to months left and we want to make sure that your bowels are managed and you don't end up back here again. And she freaked out. Weeks to months? The doctor said I had a year.

And she said, I wasn't on anything before I came here. Why do I have to be on all these meds? And I said, well, the doctor thinks that you have weeks to months left and we want to make sure that your bowels are managed and you don't end up back here again. And she freaked out. Weeks to months? The doctor said I had a year.

And she said, I wasn't on anything before I came here. Why do I have to be on all these meds? And I said, well, the doctor thinks that you have weeks to months left and we want to make sure that your bowels are managed and you don't end up back here again. And she freaked out. Weeks to months? The doctor said I had a year.

So her oncologist told her that she had a year left and then referred her to hospice knowing that the qualification is a life expectancy of six months or less. So that was a lesson for me is know what your patient knows before you go in there with a prognosis. So really finding out what do you understand?

So her oncologist told her that she had a year left and then referred her to hospice knowing that the qualification is a life expectancy of six months or less. So that was a lesson for me is know what your patient knows before you go in there with a prognosis. So really finding out what do you understand?

So her oncologist told her that she had a year left and then referred her to hospice knowing that the qualification is a life expectancy of six months or less. So that was a lesson for me is know what your patient knows before you go in there with a prognosis. So really finding out what do you understand?