Pepe Mara

The second issue is the immigrant community, which tends to live in the same way they lived back home. Sometimes that includes sanitary conditions which are not suitable for a developed country. And that can lead to rejection by the host community. So it's a culture clash.

No, it's not really a clash of cultures, but there's indifference. And indifference is probably worse than a clash, because in a fight there's a kind of relationship. But with indifference there's no relationship. So they just stay separate. In the past, the mayor admits, there was a feeling that resources spent on migrants meant they were being taken away or even stolen from local people. But that's changing, he says.

This is the first fundamental step. The second step... He turns proudly to his desktop. The screensaver is an artist's impression of the project. You're showing me the second step, which will begin next year. This is a social farm that's going to be built in San Ferdinando. In fact...

These services are all going to be open to Italians as well, so they're hoping there's going to be lots of integration there. This sounds great, but critics would say that maybe it's a bit idealistic. The project is idealistic. It's also visionary. And certainly it's an intermediate step to reach total integration, if these workers want to live stable lives in this place, to rent a house and share the urban space.

How many migrants could this house? The number's variable. There'll be a hostel for seasonal workers and some homes for those who want to live there. We think around 200 people. It'll satisfy part of the area's housing demand. We've also asked the large farms to give decent work and housing to these migrants. So if I come back here in a year, two years, will I see this farm? One year. One year?

Katsotaan. Olen takaisin. Katsotaan. Odotan sinut. Hyvä. Näytän kaikki... Se on todellista.