Pete Donaldson

Before that.

Before him.

Oh, before that.

Not worth the interruption.

Oh, well.

Can you give the answer?

Was he playing at Newcastle?

Playing at Newcastle, yeah.

It was Mitrovic.

Oh, of course it would have been.

2018.

Is that right?

do you think that um i think i always feel like kind of where cannavaro goes gattuso's not that far behind i don't know why like managerial wise i think he'll get to you know the climbs of when he realizes what's on offer in many ways he's like the chaos negative of cannavaro yeah i think so one of the key elements of gattuso is that he's always lurking yeah he is yeah very much he's done very well the jobs he's had he

has given that everything just seems he's done well until it's got to the point of doing the actual job i think a lot of people wish him goodwill and want him to have the career here's another opportunity come on come on come on come on yeah but anyway give great great copy and um the people in fleet street or wherever you know whatever the italian version they're probably quite uh you know they'll get you in jobs that you are completely unfit for

England are one of the few European teams who've actually won.

There was a little boy, a US fan, getting interviewed by, I think it was the BBC, and they said, who would you take from the England team to be in the US squad?

And he just went, Bern.

Did he?

Yeah, that's very good.

That's the final, you know, key for the lock.