Pete Hegseth

It kind of feels like, I feel like you've been pushing pretty hard and we used to have the former Soviet Union and we're pretty proud of that.

And Ukraine was a part of it and all these other companies.

And I want my shit back.

And I think I'm at the right time where I'm powerful enough to do it.

And you're not quite on my border yet.

And Biden's...

AWOL, so I'm going for it.

And just like I did under my minor incursion under Obama, I got what I could, I got Crimea, now I waited under Trump, now I'm going to get my... And this idea that I hear all the time, and I have friends who would probably agree with us on most things.

They're like, well, if you don't stop him in Ukraine, then he's going to go all the way to Poland.

I don't think he's... I mean, maybe in a perfect world where he had unlimited capabilities and he could crown himself king of Europe, he would.

I think he's probably...

knows enough to know that he's probably not going much further than Ukraine.

And I don't think he's a suicidal maniac who's hell-bent on bringing in Armageddon through nuclear warfare.

If Ukraine can defend themselves from that, great.

But I don't want American intervention driving deep into Europe and making him feel like he's so much on his heels that then he does have to... Because early on, he was talking about nukes.

If you remember, there was this, oh, we have to use nuclear weapons here or there.

So, I mean, I'd be interested in your thoughts on that, but it's not current.

I mean, I guess if I'm thinking nukes too, the other part that concerned me is Iran having nuclear weapons.

And that was always a bright line for us because nuclear weapons in the hands of radical Islamists, whether it's Sunni stripe or Shia stripe, who believe their martyrdom rhetoric, the extent to which they do,

changes the whole calculation.