Pete Wright

They even started saying, you can drink a little bit if you're careful. And eventually we're like, you know what? You can't be trusted.

They even started saying, you can drink a little bit if you're careful. And eventually we're like, you know what? You can't be trusted.

Is impossible, right. And here's where it comes back to tying social reform to moral reform and rooting it in the church. My hypothesis is, not being an expert on this, but my hypothesis is that the founders of the temperance movement, while being Christian themselves, knew that if you put moral weight to it behind the weight of the church...

Is impossible, right. And here's where it comes back to tying social reform to moral reform and rooting it in the church. My hypothesis is, not being an expert on this, but my hypothesis is that the founders of the temperance movement, while being Christian themselves, knew that if you put moral weight to it behind the weight of the church...

people will use guilt and shame as a way to modify their own behavior, right? That's the idea. We've talked about it with lust and gluttony and all of the other ones. When you root them in the church, guilt actually will out. And we have a social movement and something to fight about.

people will use guilt and shame as a way to modify their own behavior, right? That's the idea. We've talked about it with lust and gluttony and all of the other ones. When you root them in the church, guilt actually will out. And we have a social movement and something to fight about.

I don't know that from the church is necessarily a modifier, right? Is social pressure the thing, right?

I don't know that from the church is necessarily a modifier, right? Is social pressure the thing, right?

Okay, so talk to me then about cigarettes. Did the church smack the cigarettes out of your hand? Should they? Do they? No, they don't. They never did. No, they never did. Interesting. Right. And cigarettes, like, objectively, are works. Eventually, right? Do you know what you get from smoking cigarettes? A very high risk of lung cancer. Right.

Okay, so talk to me then about cigarettes. Did the church smack the cigarettes out of your hand? Should they? Do they? No, they don't. They never did. No, they never did. Interesting. Right. And cigarettes, like, objectively, are works. Eventually, right? Do you know what you get from smoking cigarettes? A very high risk of lung cancer. Right.

Well, and we're coming around to that same sort of feeling culturally around marijuana use, right? It doesn't make you act like a buffoon. It makes you munchy. And that's, I think, a really important thing. And one of the things that's different about the temperance movement related to alcohol is they never got to the thing that makes me drink only in moderation, which is

Well, and we're coming around to that same sort of feeling culturally around marijuana use, right? It doesn't make you act like a buffoon. It makes you munchy. And that's, I think, a really important thing. And one of the things that's different about the temperance movement related to alcohol is they never got to the thing that makes me drink only in moderation, which is

my grandfather standing next to his urologist at the golf club over a urinal and having his urologist see in my grandfather's urine stream pieces of his liver that have been decayed by his martini abuse. He abused those martinis. You've told this story before.

my grandfather standing next to his urologist at the golf club over a urinal and having his urologist see in my grandfather's urine stream pieces of his liver that have been decayed by his martini abuse. He abused those martinis. You've told this story before.

It does. And that's why I'm saying, I'm like, I know we've talked about it before because I, that's one of those like gravitationally powerful stories in my head. Any story will eventually come back to my dad peeing out or my grandfather peeing out his own liver. The point I'm trying to make here is the health and safety aspect of, of, of,

It does. And that's why I'm saying, I'm like, I know we've talked about it before because I, that's one of those like gravitationally powerful stories in my head. Any story will eventually come back to my dad peeing out or my grandfather peeing out his own liver. The point I'm trying to make here is the health and safety aspect of, of, of,

too much alcohol or alcohol abuse i feel like was overshadowed for a long time and it was strictly hey you act like an idiot and it makes you drinking too much alcohol causes social and moral failings in people ignorant of the fact that it's also poisoning you

too much alcohol or alcohol abuse i feel like was overshadowed for a long time and it was strictly hey you act like an idiot and it makes you drinking too much alcohol causes social and moral failings in people ignorant of the fact that it's also poisoning you

And I think that's really, that's, that's like a big deal because as soon as you tell people not to behave a certain way in public, there is a subset of people that's specifically going to go out and behave that way in public. You're humans. That's what we do. Like we don't like authority. Right. You can't tell me what to do, tempers movement.

And I think that's really, that's, that's like a big deal because as soon as you tell people not to behave a certain way in public, there is a subset of people that's specifically going to go out and behave that way in public. You're humans. That's what we do. Like we don't like authority. Right. You can't tell me what to do, tempers movement.