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Peter Attia, M.D.

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The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

This is a topic that we talk a lot about on the podcast, but usually from a pretty narrow lens, which is in the form of replacement.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

We talk about hormones, both in men and women, sex hormones, and we talk about how they wax and wane as an individual ages.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

We obviously then talk about the medical use of them, but I don't think we've spent any time understanding the more basic fundamentals of these hormones, the role they play in our evolution.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

And anecdotally, I'll just share with you kind of the observation that any parent probably has if they have male and female children.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

My first child was a girl and my wife and I very, very stupidly and arrogantly thought we were the perfect parents.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Because like she was so well behaved and we were like, what do all of these other parents with their boys running around misbehaving, like what are they doing wrong?

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

How could we teach them how to be as good as we are?

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

I mean, we didn't actually say that, but there was undoubtedly an annoying smugness to us.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

And if you believe in a God, that God smacked us into our place with two boys that followed who were, for all intents and purposes, treated the same way, socialized the same way.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

And there is a level of aggression in them, a fury in them that I've never seen, probably unless I were to go back and hear stories of what my mom said I was like.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Eight and almost 11.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

I wouldn't say they're a different sex.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

I would say they're a different species.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Yeah, I was just going to say that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

So all of that is to say, I don't feel we did anything different and yet they couldn't be more different.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

And I appreciate that that's not going to be the case for every parent.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

what I hope to learn is how much testosterone has to do with that.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Because I also am under the impression that at this age, the testosterone levels wouldn't be that much different.

The Peter Attia Drive
#374 - The evolutionary biology of testosterone: how it shapes male development and sex-based behavioral differences, | Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

And I understand, and we'll probably talk about the differences in testosterone levels during the embryologic phase, because obviously that led to the differences.