Peter Attia, M.D.

And then whatever, like four years later, five years later, I had normal testosterone.

So again, if a 25-year-old is walking around with a testosterone of three to four hundred,

I would be much more inquisitive about fixing a whole bunch of things and much slower to move towards replacement.

And by the way, even if I was going to replace it, I would not be using testosterone.

I'd be using HCG.

Right.

I'd be preserving gonadal function as opposed to completely suppressing it.

Whereas if a guy is 60, if he's fine with testicular shrinkage, which would be the fundamental difference in using exogenous T when you suppress his HPA axis, then I think it's less of an issue.

I don't want to speak for many authority on treating young people.

I simply don't have that experience.

I don't have even a sense of how widely used it is.

I guess it is a good additional hurdle to have it be DEA mandated, regulated, scheduled.

So what are you up to right now?

I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole of what many people, if they Google you, are going to learn about the horrific experiences you had.

But how long ago was all of that?

That was about three years ago?

So four years ago.

So how has this experience been for you?

You're four years on the other side of...

I think what any reasonable person would look at and say is just a complete and total injustice.