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Peter Attia

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The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

The prime number company.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Think of the value, David, of prime numbers if they were finite.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Can you imagine how much the value of three

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

5, 7, 11, 13, like those numbers would increase in value so much more if they became finite.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

I think today.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Like Bitcoin.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Decoding and encoding Bitcoin.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

That's a very elegant explanation.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And I think it's worth reiterating that point, which is at the end of the day, the three things that matter are what are the data?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

How were the data collected?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

What were the methods used to collect them?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And then what is the string of logic that connects those data to their conclusions?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

And all of these things should be quite transparent.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

Now, you've chosen a career, a field of inquiry, in which it can be more difficult to do all of the above than in, say, genetics or biochemistry or particle physics.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

where one of those steps is, in your case, particularly difficult, and that is the manner in which data are collected.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

In other words, I don't think nutrition scientists are at a loss for logic, but where I think they struggle, if they're studying humans at least, is collecting these data can be really challenging, really expensive.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

The species of interest is not amenable to close quarters for long periods of time, which is how you would obviously run a controlled experiment in a biological setting.

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

So this is maybe more of a philosophical question, but what is the future of nutrition science?

The Peter Attia Drive
#368 β€’ The protein debate: optimal intake, limitations of the RDA, whether high-protein intake is harmful, and how to think about processed foods | David Allison, Ph.D.

We're going to come back to the main topic, but this is just such an interesting tangent.