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Peter Attia

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But from a purely anabolic reason, under normal conditions,

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Let's leave bodybuilding out of it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

You're sort of hit the saturation curve, but can't seem to find the evidence that is causing any harm.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

This is experimental evidence, even epidemiologic evidence, just no evidence.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But that said, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Let's go back to, we've established a new floor.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

There is nobody that should be consuming less than 1.2 grams of protein per kilogram per day.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

What happens as we start to increase that from 1.2 to 1.6?

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I was going to say that is bigger than I would expect, especially on the strength side.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Yeah, but the curve is slowing down.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Yeah.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

To me, there's an analogy here with ApoB and cardiovascular disease.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So if you look at the three bodies of evidence, so if you look at all of the epidemiologic data, if you look at all of the clinical trial data, and if you look at all of the Mendelian randomization data, and you plot every single one of them on a graph, and there's a beautiful graph, which we'll include in the show notes that does this.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So on the x-axis, and it's done in LDL-C.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Again, LDL-C, ApoB, easy to view them together.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So on the x-axis, you have LDL-C going down.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So from 160, 140, 120, 100, 80, 60.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So descending LDL-C.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And on the y-axis, you have mortality, cardiovascular mortality.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So not surprisingly, all of these point down.