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Peter Attia

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The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But if we have a little bit more time, I want to talk something about a topic that is near and dear to both of our hearts, which is temperature.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

You know my journey on the sauna train.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I was probably the biggest sauna skeptic for many years, not because I didn't love it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I've always loved a sauna.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I just had a hard time believing that the data were causal.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

I was just like, there's too much healthy user bias in here.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But over the last five years, as I've looked closer and closer at the data, while I can't comment on the effect size, I think it's very difficult to comment on the effect size from all the epidemiology.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

It's

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

very difficult for me to believe that there isn't a positive effect in terms of at least cardiovascular disease and dementia.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Those are my priors.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

My priors are I'm now in a place where I actually view sauna as an intervention that can help an individual reduce their risk.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And for me personally, because I don't really worry about cardiovascular disease anymore, it's so easy to manage the risk around that otherwise.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

But dementia is a very difficult risk to manage because there's fewer things we understand about the causal pathways to get there than we do ASCVD.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So in many ways, I'm in the sauna, not just because I enjoy it, not just because it's a wonderful social opportunity to be with your spouse if that's how you choose to do it.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

but because I'm also banking a little bit on, hey, I want to get some benefit to my brain.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

So tell us where you are currently, because you're one of the people who I think keeps up with this literature more than anybody.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Tell us if anything has changed in your mind one way or the other, both in increasing confidence, decreasing confidence.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

Just update us on where you are.

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

And what would be the equivalent exposure in steam or water?

The Peter Attia Drive
#369 โ€’ Rethinking protein needs for performance, muscle preservation, and longevity, and the mental and physical benefits of creatine supplementation and sauna use | Rhonda Patrick, Ph.D.

20 minutes?