Peter Attia

So that's why it works so reproducibly in mice.

But he argues it might not have any effect in humans because we've already captured so much of our genetic potential in terms of lifespan now that the idea that Rapa would give us an extra 15% of life, he feels is just kind of hard to imagine.

And again, it's a theoretical argument.

It's super interesting, but I'd never heard it in relation to the longevity quotient before.

And I thought it was very much worth pondering.

Yeah.

And then the question, of course, is, is there a way around that?

Is there a way where you could intermittently dose it?

You just take it once, you time it so that it's not in proximity to a bout of resistance training by a couple of days or something like that.

But yeah, there's a lot there.

Great expression I heard recently, which is mice usually lie.

Monkeys sometimes lie.

It's humans we care about.

That was just fantastic.

It was the human equivalent dose.

I was like, wow, they're eating their body weight.

I think the mice atherosclerosis studies are very dangerous.

We have to be very careful.

They have a very different lipoprotein system than we do.

They evolved in a totally different manner than we did.