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Peter Berg

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

The biggest single issue, if you get into the weedsβ€”and I think it's an interesting point of debateβ€” is whether or not Brigham Young knew and authorized this massacre and the way the massacre played out in real life was different how we did it in the film in the film we did it in you know one swell a move like it just happens and you know what we filmed it in one shot and it's

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

pretty intense, visceral, very fast events, and then it's over. In reality, this wagon train was surrounded by the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, and some of these Native Americans. And it went on for about four or five days. And the Mormons dressed up as Native Americans. This is where it gets kind of

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

pretty intense, visceral, very fast events, and then it's over. In reality, this wagon train was surrounded by the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, and some of these Native Americans. And it went on for about four or five days. And the Mormons dressed up as Native Americans. This is where it gets kind of

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

pretty intense, visceral, very fast events, and then it's over. In reality, this wagon train was surrounded by the Mormon militia, the Nauvoo Legion, and some of these Native Americans. And it went on for about four or five days. And the Mormons dressed up as Native Americans. This is where it gets kind of

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

And some Mormons aren't thrilled that we pointed out the fact that they were trying to put the blame on the Native Americans. So they literally, Mormons dressed up as Indians to confuse the pioneers. And in case there were survivors to say, oh, it wasn't Mormons. It was the Native Americans that did this. So they don't love that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

And some Mormons aren't thrilled that we pointed out the fact that they were trying to put the blame on the Native Americans. So they literally, Mormons dressed up as Indians to confuse the pioneers. And in case there were survivors to say, oh, it wasn't Mormons. It was the Native Americans that did this. So they don't love that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

And some Mormons aren't thrilled that we pointed out the fact that they were trying to put the blame on the Native Americans. So they literally, Mormons dressed up as Indians to confuse the pioneers. And in case there were survivors to say, oh, it wasn't Mormons. It was the Native Americans that did this. So they don't love that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

But what what the Mormons claim or some in the Mormon church claim is that during the three or four days that the siege took place before the actual massacre and the details of the massacre are really fucked up because the Mormons pretended they were accepting a surrender. So they went in with white flags and they said, OK, the men walk this way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

But what what the Mormons claim or some in the Mormon church claim is that during the three or four days that the siege took place before the actual massacre and the details of the massacre are really fucked up because the Mormons pretended they were accepting a surrender. So they went in with white flags and they said, OK, the men walk this way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

But what what the Mormons claim or some in the Mormon church claim is that during the three or four days that the siege took place before the actual massacre and the details of the massacre are really fucked up because the Mormons pretended they were accepting a surrender. So they went in with white flags and they said, OK, the men walk this way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

The women and children, we're going to walk you to safety because the Indians are going to kill you. Mormons are we're here to save you. So they started walking them out. And then on someone's signal, they just killed everyone. Really bad. But the issue of whether Brigham Young knew about it or didn't know about it, we imply that he knew about it. We never say that he authorized it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

The women and children, we're going to walk you to safety because the Indians are going to kill you. Mormons are we're here to save you. So they started walking them out. And then on someone's signal, they just killed everyone. Really bad. But the issue of whether Brigham Young knew about it or didn't know about it, we imply that he knew about it. We never say that he authorized it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

The women and children, we're going to walk you to safety because the Indians are going to kill you. Mormons are we're here to save you. So they started walking them out. And then on someone's signal, they just killed everyone. Really bad. But the issue of whether Brigham Young knew about it or didn't know about it, we imply that he knew about it. We never say that he authorized it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

but we imply that he did know about it. And what many of the defenders of Brigham Young will say is that there was a letter written where Brigham Young said, do not harm these pioneers. Don't kill them. But the letter was sent by horse while the event was already occurring. So I've had people say he knew that that letter wasn't going to make it there in time. He was covering himself.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

but we imply that he did know about it. And what many of the defenders of Brigham Young will say is that there was a letter written where Brigham Young said, do not harm these pioneers. Don't kill them. But the letter was sent by horse while the event was already occurring. So I've had people say he knew that that letter wasn't going to make it there in time. He was covering himself.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

but we imply that he did know about it. And what many of the defenders of Brigham Young will say is that there was a letter written where Brigham Young said, do not harm these pioneers. Don't kill them. But the letter was sent by horse while the event was already occurring. So I've had people say he knew that that letter wasn't going to make it there in time. He was covering himself.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

Oh, hey, I wrote a letter. I knew I couldn't get there in time, but I wrote a letter, so there's plausible deniability. No one knows. It's hard to believe if you really start getting into this, and obviously I did. I know it's not on the top of everyone's list of things to give a fuck about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

Oh, hey, I wrote a letter. I knew I couldn't get there in time, but I wrote a letter, so there's plausible deniability. No one knows. It's hard to believe if you really start getting into this, and obviously I did. I know it's not on the top of everyone's list of things to give a fuck about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

Oh, hey, I wrote a letter. I knew I couldn't get there in time, but I wrote a letter, so there's plausible deniability. No one knows. It's hard to believe if you really start getting into this, and obviously I did. I know it's not on the top of everyone's list of things to give a fuck about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2280 - Peter Berg

But it's really hard for me to believe that in 1857, a group of Brigham Young soldiers would act unilaterally on their own and commit a crime that's horrible without somebody approving it. It's hard for me to imagine. So that's the single issue that tends to, you know, if I do and I really try not to. My girlfriends turned me on to Reddit. I never even really knew what it was. Oh, my God.