Peter Hotez

He's, you know, a symptom of a much greater anti-science illness.

that has swept the country and, as I said, caused 200,000 needless COVID deaths for those who refused vaccines.

They were victims of a targeted health disinformation campaign.

And that's the problem.

And how...

We do this in a meaningful way and protect, obviously, freedom of speech and everything that we hold dear in this country.

It's tough, but it's dark right now and working hard to take this on.

I think this podcast, for instance, and talking to you is part of that process.

And so I'm so grateful for your giving me a voice in this.

And Michael Mann says hi, too, by the way.

Absolutely.

Yeah, it's a very complicated and interesting but complicated time.

And great to be sharing this with you today.

Thank you so much.

People make a misstatement, and then people without critical thinking skills and people who just spend all their time on conspiracy websites and podcasts don't bother to go to the library and read a book, and then they just amplify it.

Thanks so much, Eric.