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Peter Lacaillade

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969 total appearances

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

We want to have diversification across these different sniper laser shot people that might be doing subsectors in defense like Albany River or healthcare software, et cetera.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

And the venture funds often raise in two-year cycles.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

So it's kind of nice.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

Thrive or Founders Fund are basically in each vintage vehicle we set up, you're going to have that fund.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

But it gives the optionality that if we have a client, say they're an entrepreneur, they start with 50 million with us, then they sell their business and they go up to 250 million.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

They can flex up accordingly in their allocation.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

We're doing cashflow modeling.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

What we're trying to do is, let me just run some simple math for you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

Let's say you're a hundred million dollar client of ours, and we want to have you be 35% private equity.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

The rough back of the envelope math, this is a little swag, is that in order to get to that NAV target that you have, say you want to have 35 million of NAV in private equity, is you need to commit a third of that allocation per year, somewhere between 10 to $12 million annually.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

We do it every two years.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

So you would commit say $20 million, somewhere between 20 is probably good.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

So you're going to commit 20 million to the vehicle we're setting up right now, which is called private equity 10.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

And then you're going to commit, hopefully your portfolio is growing a little bit.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

So you might commit 21 or 22 million to private equity 11 and 23, 24 million to private equity 12.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

And then when you get to year six, the modeling would suggest that your NAV, and hopefully your portfolio has grown a little bit, you're going to roughly be at $40 million.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

You're going to be at that 35% target NAV.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

You're going to have an unfunded liability.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

You're trying to be 35% private equity.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]

You probably have to have about a 15% unfunded