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Peter S. Goodman

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535 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

So the industry's gone out looking around the world for new sources of lead.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And one of the places it's now looking quite aggressively is Nigeria.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

Will had already spent a fair bit of time looking into what this business actually looks like on the ground.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

He'd already figured out that the process of recycling lead was being done in a way that was really quite horrific to see up close.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

It was really harmful to people.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And he'd had this terrific idea, which was that

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

You know, we would actually go and test people.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

We would find people willing to volunteer for blood tests and quantify just exactly how much lead was reaching people's bloodstreams.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And we'd also test soil to look into the tainting of the food supply.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And so I got enlisted to try to take a run at figuring out who was buying it, how the terms of trade were going down, all the logistics along the way.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

They wanted me because I've been writing versions of complex supply chain stories now for 25 plus years around the world.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And I didn't know anything about this particular industry, but I did have some inkling about shipping, logistics.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And I was certainly intrigued to try to make the connection between this public health catastrophe in West Africa and the auto industry in the United States.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

Yeah, it's enormously challenging, especially because we're talking about a trade that's secret.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

I mean, the participants have no interest in talking to anybody about this stuff.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

There's limited publicly available data.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And so I found myself taking on what, quite honestly, was the most difficult reporting assignment of my career.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

So Will had already done a lot of this legwork.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

He already had sources in Nigeria.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

He understood where these factories were.