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Peter S. Goodman

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535 total appearances

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The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

Most people ignored me.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

Some sent me to the communications people who then ignored me.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

and then eventually a handful of people started helping me in a really critical way and they started to name the same likely purchaser over and over again they named east pen which is the second largest battery manufacturer in the united states it's this family-owned business they're not publicly traded

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

They're very quiet, and they don't like to deal with the press, and they certainly didn't want to deal with me.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

So at this point, I know, and I put that in quotation marks, like I know on deep backgrounds, right, with no names attached and no documents, that East Penn is buying lead from trading companies that are bringing it into the Port of Baltimore.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

But I can't prove it.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

It's certainly not gonna be a satisfying, significant part of the story based on that sourcing.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

I needed something stronger.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

So I went to the Port of Baltimore.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

I actually spent a whole day there with a really excellent photographer who had probably the most unexciting day of her life.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

It was kind of a fairly futile day.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

We actually chartered a little fishing boat and we just like tooled around the harbor in Baltimore and we were able to see the dock

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

where some of these shipments come in, we saw a trucking yard where they unloaded from the water.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And we got a sense of the geography, but there was no vessel bringing in lead on this particular day.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

But I did learn something.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

And because of that reporting, because of what I learned at the truck yard, I reached out to this logistics company where a guy who ran the yard

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

did very reluctantly and somewhat elliptically confirm that they handled lead incoming from West Africa, purchased by Trafigura, and they sent some of it out to Pennsylvania, to East Penn.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

But we still...

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

really needed to talk to East Penn about all this because, you know, let's remember, this is the second largest battery manufacturer in the United States.

The Daily
The ‘Clean’ Technology That’s Poisoning People

It's not a household name, it's not a company most of us ever think about, but it's there and we're participants.