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Peter Singer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
592 total appearances

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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

So, you know, Jonathan Haidt has an example where he talks about a case of adult sibling incest.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

an adult brother and sister who are alone on a holiday somewhere in a remote place decide it would be fun to have sex.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

They have sex, they enjoy it, but they say, yeah, okay, but we don't need to do that again.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

We've had that experience and they remain close as a sibling, as siblings.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

Was there something wrong with that?

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

And when Haidt, who was a psychologist rather than a philosopher, asked his students and experimental subjects, they said,

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

Nearly all said, oh, yes, that's wrong.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

And then Haidt would say, well, why is it wrong?

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

And they would say things, oh, like because they might have children who are abnormal.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

But actually I didn't spell this out, but in the example they used, although the woman was on the pill, the sister was on the pill, but the brother decided to use a condom as well, so there was really no chance that they were going to have an offspring.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

And then they might say, well, it could hurt their sibling relationship, but they were told in the example that it didn't.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

they can't really explain, but they just have this deep instinct that incest is wrong.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

Okay, well, we can explain why they have that instinct, that intuition, but it doesn't give us any reasons for thinking that what this couple did was wrong.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

So, I mean, what you're talking about really sounds like the idea of reflective equilibrium that John Rawls put forward in A Theory of Justice, that we develop a theory or a basic starting point for foundation for moral theories, and then we test the theories against our intuitions, and then

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

we either tweak the theory to produce better intuitions or we tweak the intuitions to match the theory.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

Rawls originally suggested this was a little bit like a scientist trying to produce a theory to match the data.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

And if there are a couple of points of data that the theory couldn't match, well, then you perhaps rejected that data.

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas
351 | Peter Singer on Maximizing Good for All Sentient Creatures

You said, well, there must have been something wrong with that observation.