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Peter Thiel

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And the percent hasn't gone up in 10 years because, you know, they've maybe doubled the amount of electricity they use and maybe they doubled the nuclear. But the relative percentage is still high. It's still a pretty small part of the mix because it's just more expensive when you have these over-safety designed reactors.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And the percent hasn't gone up in 10 years because, you know, they've maybe doubled the amount of electricity they use and maybe they doubled the nuclear. But the relative percentage is still high. It's still a pretty small part of the mix because it's just more expensive when you have these over-safety designed reactors.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

There are probably ways to build small reactors that are way cheaper, but then you still have this dual-use thing. Do you create plutonium? Are there ways you can create a pathway to building more nuclear weapons?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

There are probably ways to build small reactors that are way cheaper, but then you still have this dual-use thing. Do you create plutonium? Are there ways you can create a pathway to building more nuclear weapons?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

There are probably ways to build small reactors that are way cheaper, but then you still have this dual-use thing. Do you create plutonium? Are there ways you can create a pathway to building more nuclear weapons?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Well, my understanding is we have way more efficient designs. You can do small reactor designs, which are โ€“ you don't need this giant containment structure, so it costs much less per kilowatt hour of electricity you produce. So I think we have those designs. They're just not allowed. But then I think the problem is that โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Well, my understanding is we have way more efficient designs. You can do small reactor designs, which are โ€“ you don't need this giant containment structure, so it costs much less per kilowatt hour of electricity you produce. So I think we have those designs. They're just not allowed. But then I think the problem is that โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Well, my understanding is we have way more efficient designs. You can do small reactor designs, which are โ€“ you don't need this giant containment structure, so it costs much less per kilowatt hour of electricity you produce. So I think we have those designs. They're just not allowed. But then I think the problem is that โ€“

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

If you were able to build them in all these countries all over the world, you still have this dual-use problem. And again, my alternate history of what really went wrong with nuclear power, it wasn't Three Mile Island. It wasn't Chernobyl. That's the official story. The real story was India getting the bomb.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

If you were able to build them in all these countries all over the world, you still have this dual-use problem. And again, my alternate history of what really went wrong with nuclear power, it wasn't Three Mile Island. It wasn't Chernobyl. That's the official story. The real story was India getting the bomb.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

If you were able to build them in all these countries all over the world, you still have this dual-use problem. And again, my alternate history of what really went wrong with nuclear power, it wasn't Three Mile Island. It wasn't Chernobyl. That's the official story. The real story was India getting the bomb.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It completely makes sense. Jeez Louise. And then this is always the question about โ€“ There's always a big picture question. People ask me, you know, if I'm right about this picture of, you know, this slowdown in tech, this sort of stagnation in many, many dimensions. And then there's always a question, you know, why did this happen?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It completely makes sense. Jeez Louise. And then this is always the question about โ€“ There's always a big picture question. People ask me, you know, if I'm right about this picture of, you know, this slowdown in tech, this sort of stagnation in many, many dimensions. And then there's always a question, you know, why did this happen?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It completely makes sense. Jeez Louise. And then this is always the question about โ€“ There's always a big picture question. People ask me, you know, if I'm right about this picture of, you know, this slowdown in tech, this sort of stagnation in many, many dimensions. And then there's always a question, you know, why did this happen?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And my cop-out answer is always why questions are overdetermined because, you know, it can be โ€“ there are multiple reasons. So it could be why it could be we became a more feminized, risk-averse society. It could be that the education system worked poorly. It could be that we were just out of ideas. The easy ideas have been found. The hard ideas, the cupboard, nature's cupboard was bare.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And my cop-out answer is always why questions are overdetermined because, you know, it can be โ€“ there are multiple reasons. So it could be why it could be we became a more feminized, risk-averse society. It could be that the education system worked poorly. It could be that we were just out of ideas. The easy ideas have been found. The hard ideas, the cupboard, nature's cupboard was bare.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And my cop-out answer is always why questions are overdetermined because, you know, it can be โ€“ there are multiple reasons. So it could be why it could be we became a more feminized, risk-averse society. It could be that the education system worked poorly. It could be that we were just out of ideas. The easy ideas have been found. The hard ideas, the cupboard, nature's cupboard was bare.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

The low-hanging fruit had been picked. So it can be overdetermined. But I think one dimension that's not to be underrated for the science and tech stagnation was that โ€“ an awful lot of science and technology had this dystopian or apocalyptic dimension. And probably what happened at Los Alamos in 1945 and then with the thermonuclear weapons in the early 50s

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

The low-hanging fruit had been picked. So it can be overdetermined. But I think one dimension that's not to be underrated for the science and tech stagnation was that โ€“ an awful lot of science and technology had this dystopian or apocalyptic dimension. And probably what happened at Los Alamos in 1945 and then with the thermonuclear weapons in the early 50s

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

The low-hanging fruit had been picked. So it can be overdetermined. But I think one dimension that's not to be underrated for the science and tech stagnation was that โ€“ an awful lot of science and technology had this dystopian or apocalyptic dimension. And probably what happened at Los Alamos in 1945 and then with the thermonuclear weapons in the early 50s