Peter Thiel

Well, OK. That's more like it. Yeah. But what you gave me a minute ago sounds more like a social contract theory in which people sit down, negotiate and have a nice legal chit-chat to draw up the social contract. That is a complete fiction.

Well, OK. That's more like it. Yeah. But what you gave me a minute ago sounds more like a social contract theory in which people sit down, negotiate and have a nice legal chit-chat to draw up the social contract. That is a complete fiction.

Well, I think at the beginning was madness and murder.

Well, I think at the beginning was madness and murder.

Well, I think at the beginning was madness and murder.

And I don't know... I don't know if it got that much more rational. I don't know if it's that much more rational today. Well, in some ways, it's not, right? This is, again, back to the progressive conception. Have we really progressed? How much have we really progressed from that?

And I don't know... I don't know if it got that much more rational. I don't know if it's that much more rational today. Well, in some ways, it's not, right? This is, again, back to the progressive conception. Have we really progressed? How much have we really progressed from that?

And I don't know... I don't know if it got that much more rational. I don't know if it's that much more rational today. Well, in some ways, it's not, right? This is, again, back to the progressive conception. Have we really progressed? How much have we really progressed from that?

But yeah, my version would be that it was much more, it was organized around acts of mass violence, like maybe you externalize it onto a mastodon or hunting some big animal or something like this, but the real problem of violence It wasn't external. It was mostly internal. It was violence with people who were near you, proximate to you. It wasn't even natural cataclysms or other tribes.

But yeah, my version would be that it was much more, it was organized around acts of mass violence, like maybe you externalize it onto a mastodon or hunting some big animal or something like this, but the real problem of violence It wasn't external. It was mostly internal. It was violence with people who were near you, proximate to you. It wasn't even natural cataclysms or other tribes.

But yeah, my version would be that it was much more, it was organized around acts of mass violence, like maybe you externalize it onto a mastodon or hunting some big animal or something like this, but the real problem of violence It wasn't external. It was mostly internal. It was violence with people who were near you, proximate to you. It wasn't even natural cataclysms or other tribes.

It was sort of much more the internal stuff. And it's very different, I think.

It was sort of much more the internal stuff. And it's very different, I think.

It was sort of much more the internal stuff. And it's very different, I think.

situation is somehow very, very different from something like, I don't know, an ape-primate hierarchy, where in an ape context, you have an alpha male, you know, he's the strongest, and there's some sort of natural dominance, and you don't need to have a fight to the death, typically, because you know who's the strongest, and you don't need to push it all the way.

situation is somehow very, very different from something like, I don't know, an ape-primate hierarchy, where in an ape context, you have an alpha male, you know, he's the strongest, and there's some sort of natural dominance, and you don't need to have a fight to the death, typically, because you know who's the strongest, and you don't need to push it all the way.

situation is somehow very, very different from something like, I don't know, an ape-primate hierarchy, where in an ape context, you have an alpha male, you know, he's the strongest, and there's some sort of natural dominance, and you don't need to have a fight to the death, typically, because you know who's the strongest, and you don't need to push it all the way.

In a human context, it's always possible for two or three guys to gang up on the alpha male. So it's somehow the culture is more important, you know, if they can talk to each other and you get language and then they can coordinate and they can gang up on the leader and then you have to stop them from gang up on the leader. And how do you do that? And so...

In a human context, it's always possible for two or three guys to gang up on the alpha male. So it's somehow the culture is more important, you know, if they can talk to each other and you get language and then they can coordinate and they can gang up on the leader and then you have to stop them from gang up on the leader. And how do you do that? And so...

In a human context, it's always possible for two or three guys to gang up on the alpha male. So it's somehow the culture is more important, you know, if they can talk to each other and you get language and then they can coordinate and they can gang up on the leader and then you have to stop them from gang up on the leader. And how do you do that? And so...