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Peter Thiel

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And there's something sociopathic about doing double-blind studies because one-third of the people who have this bad disease are getting a sugar pill. And we shouldn't even be โ€“ like maybe it's immoral to do double-blind studies.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And there's something sociopathic about doing double-blind studies because one-third of the people who have this bad disease are getting a sugar pill. And we shouldn't even be โ€“ like maybe it's immoral to do double-blind studies.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Well, my claim is if it's a โ€“ if it actually works, you shouldn't need to do a double-blind study at all. But โ€“ And then my hope was that MDMA, psychedelics, all these things, they were a hack on the double-blind study because you knew whether you got the real thing or the sugar pill. And so this would be a way to hack through this ridiculous double-blind criterion and just get the study done.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Well, my claim is if it's a โ€“ if it actually works, you shouldn't need to do a double-blind study at all. But โ€“ And then my hope was that MDMA, psychedelics, all these things, they were a hack on the double-blind study because you knew whether you got the real thing or the sugar pill. And so this would be a way to hack through this ridiculous double-blind criterion and just get the study done.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Well, my claim is if it's a โ€“ if it actually works, you shouldn't need to do a double-blind study at all. But โ€“ And then my hope was that MDMA, psychedelics, all these things, they were a hack on the double-blind study because you knew whether you got the real thing or the sugar pill. And so this would be a way to hack through this ridiculous double-blind criterion and just get the study done.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And then what I think Part of it is probably just an anti-drug ideology by the FDA. But the other part that happened on the sort of scientific establishment level is they think you need a double-blind study. Joe, we know you're hacking this double-blind study because people will know whether they got the sugar pill or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And then what I think Part of it is probably just an anti-drug ideology by the FDA. But the other part that happened on the sort of scientific establishment level is they think you need a double-blind study. Joe, we know you're hacking this double-blind study because people will know whether they got the sugar pill or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And then what I think Part of it is probably just an anti-drug ideology by the FDA. But the other part that happened on the sort of scientific establishment level is they think you need a double-blind study. Joe, we know you're hacking this double-blind study because people will know whether they got the sugar pill or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And that's why we're going to arbitrarily change the goalposts and set them at way, way harder because we know there's no way you can do a double-blind study. And if it's not a double-blind study, it's no good because that's what our ideology of science tells us. And that's sort of what I think was part of what went sort of politically haywire with this stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And that's why we're going to arbitrarily change the goalposts and set them at way, way harder because we know there's no way you can do a double-blind study. And if it's not a double-blind study, it's no good because that's what our ideology of science tells us. And that's sort of what I think was part of what went sort of politically haywire with this stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And that's why we're going to arbitrarily change the goalposts and set them at way, way harder because we know there's no way you can do a double-blind study. And if it's not a double-blind study, it's no good because that's what our ideology of science tells us. And that's sort of what I think was part of what went sort of politically haywire with this stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Just to articulate the alternate version on this, there's always a โ€“ there's a part โ€“ let me think how to get this โ€“ you know there's there's one There's a question whether the shift to interiority, is it a complement or a substitute? Like what I said about talk and action, is it a complement or a substitute to changing the outside world? So we focus on changing ourselves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Just to articulate the alternate version on this, there's always a โ€“ there's a part โ€“ let me think how to get this โ€“ you know there's there's one There's a question whether the shift to interiority, is it a complement or a substitute? Like what I said about talk and action, is it a complement or a substitute to changing the outside world? So we focus on changing ourselves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Just to articulate the alternate version on this, there's always a โ€“ there's a part โ€“ let me think how to get this โ€“ you know there's there's one There's a question whether the shift to interiority, is it a complement or a substitute? Like what I said about talk and action, is it a complement or a substitute to changing the outside world? So we focus on changing ourselves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Is this the first step to changing the world? Or is it sort of a hypnotic way in which our attention is being redirected to from outer space to inner space. So I don't know, the one liner I had years ago was, you know, we landed on the moon in July of 1969. And three weeks later, Woodstock started. And that's when the hippies took over the country.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Is this the first step to changing the world? Or is it sort of a hypnotic way in which our attention is being redirected to from outer space to inner space. So I don't know, the one liner I had years ago was, you know, we landed on the moon in July of 1969. And three weeks later, Woodstock started. And that's when the hippies took over the country.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Is this the first step to changing the world? Or is it sort of a hypnotic way in which our attention is being redirected to from outer space to inner space. So I don't know, the one liner I had years ago was, you know, we landed on the moon in July of 1969. And three weeks later, Woodstock started. And that's when the hippies took over the country.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And, and, you know, and we stopped going to outer space because we started going to inner space. And that's, and so there's sort of a question, you know, how much, you know, it worked as a as an activator or as a deactivator in a way. And there are all these different modalities of interiority. There's psychological therapy. There's meditation. There's yoga. There was a sexual revolution.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And, and, you know, and we stopped going to outer space because we started going to inner space. And that's, and so there's sort of a question, you know, how much, you know, it worked as a as an activator or as a deactivator in a way. And there are all these different modalities of interiority. There's psychological therapy. There's meditation. There's yoga. There was a sexual revolution.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And, and, you know, and we stopped going to outer space because we started going to inner space. And that's, and so there's sort of a question, you know, how much, you know, it worked as a as an activator or as a deactivator in a way. And there are all these different modalities of interiority. There's psychological therapy. There's meditation. There's yoga. There was a sexual revolution.