Peter Thiel

And there were probably these complicated ways you could structure a nonprofit organization, especially in a marital context that I think Epstein might have known a decent amount about. How – when you were introduced to him? I don't think Epstein would have been able to comment on super string theory or something like that.

But I think this sort of thing he might have actually been pretty expert on.

But I think this sort of thing he might have actually been pretty expert on.

But I think this sort of thing he might have actually been pretty expert on.

He was described as one of the smartest tax people in the world.

He was described as one of the smartest tax people in the world.

He was described as one of the smartest tax people in the world.

And I probably—it probably was my moral weakness that I— Well, how could you have known back then?

And I probably—it probably was my moral weakness that I— Well, how could you have known back then?

And I probably—it probably was my moral weakness that I— Well, how could you have known back then?

No, this was 2014. It was post-arrest. Oh, so his arrest was the first arrest, right? Yeah.

No, this was 2014. It was post-arrest. Oh, so his arrest was the first arrest, right? Yeah.

No, this was 2014. It was post-arrest. Oh, so his arrest was the first arrest, right? Yeah.

Okay. And so... But, you know, you assume he didn't go to jail for that long. Right. It was probably not as serious as alleged. There certainly was the illusion that there were all these other people that I trusted. Reed, who introduced us, was, you know, he started LinkedIn. He was, you know, maybe too focused on business networking. Right. But I thought he always had good judgment in people.

Okay. And so... But, you know, you assume he didn't go to jail for that long. Right. It was probably not as serious as alleged. There certainly was the illusion that there were all these other people that I trusted. Reed, who introduced us, was, you know, he started LinkedIn. He was, you know, maybe too focused on business networking. Right. But I thought he always had good judgment in people.

Okay. And so... But, you know, you assume he didn't go to jail for that long. Right. It was probably not as serious as alleged. There certainly was the illusion that there were all these other people that I trusted. Reed, who introduced us, was, you know, he started LinkedIn. He was, you know, maybe too focused on business networking. Right. But I thought he always had good judgment in people.

I've thought a lot about it as a result, yeah.

I've thought a lot about it as a result, yeah.

I've thought a lot about it as a result, yeah.

Well, I think it was – I think a lot of it was this strange commentary on – You know, there was some secret club, secret society you could be part of. Right.