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Peter Thiel

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It's an absurd plot hole.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It tells us that I think that if you have faster than light travel, there's something really crazy that has to be true on a cultural, political, social level. And there may be other solutions, but I'll give you my two. One of them is that you need complete totalitarian controls. And it is like it is the individuals, they might not be perfect, they might be demons, doesn't matter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It tells us that I think that if you have faster than light travel, there's something really crazy that has to be true on a cultural, political, social level. And there may be other solutions, but I'll give you my two. One of them is that you need complete totalitarian controls. And it is like it is the individuals, they might not be perfect, they might be demons, doesn't matter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

It tells us that I think that if you have faster than light travel, there's something really crazy that has to be true on a cultural, political, social level. And there may be other solutions, but I'll give you my two. One of them is that you need complete totalitarian controls. And it is like it is the individuals, they might not be perfect, they might be demons, doesn't matter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

But you have a demonic totalitarian control of your society where it's like you have like parapsychological mind meld with everybody and no one can act independently of anybody else. No one can ever launch a warp drive weapon. And everybody who has that ability isn't like a mind meld link with everybody else or something like that. You can't have libertarian individualistic free agency.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

But you have a demonic totalitarian control of your society where it's like you have like parapsychological mind meld with everybody and no one can act independently of anybody else. No one can ever launch a warp drive weapon. And everybody who has that ability isn't like a mind meld link with everybody else or something like that. You can't have libertarian individualistic free agency.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

But you have a demonic totalitarian control of your society where it's like you have like parapsychological mind meld with everybody and no one can act independently of anybody else. No one can ever launch a warp drive weapon. And everybody who has that ability isn't like a mind meld link with everybody else or something like that. You can't have libertarian individualistic free agency.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And then I think the other version socially and culturally is they have to be like perfectly altruistic, non-self-interest, they have to be angels. And so the Pazulka literal thing I'd come to is the aliens, it's not that they might be demons or angels, they must be demons or angels if you have faster than light travel. And both of those seem pretty crazy to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And then I think the other version socially and culturally is they have to be like perfectly altruistic, non-self-interest, they have to be angels. And so the Pazulka literal thing I'd come to is the aliens, it's not that they might be demons or angels, they must be demons or angels if you have faster than light travel. And both of those seem pretty crazy to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

And then I think the other version socially and culturally is they have to be like perfectly altruistic, non-self-interest, they have to be angels. And so the Pazulka literal thing I'd come to is the aliens, it's not that they might be demons or angels, they must be demons or angels if you have faster than light travel. And both of those seem pretty crazy to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

But it is a very big leap on a, you know, if we say that something like evolution says that there's no such thing as a purely altruistic being. Right. If you were purely altruistic, if you only cared about other people, you don't survive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

But it is a very big leap on a, you know, if we say that something like evolution says that there's no such thing as a purely altruistic being. Right. If you were purely altruistic, if you only cared about other people, you don't survive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

But it is a very big leap on a, you know, if we say that something like evolution says that there's no such thing as a purely altruistic being. Right. If you were purely altruistic, if you only cared about other people, you don't survive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Because then beings that are not perfectly altruistic are somewhat dangerous. And then the danger level gets correlated to the level of technology. And if you have faster than light travel, it is infinitely dangerous.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Because then beings that are not perfectly altruistic are somewhat dangerous. And then the danger level gets correlated to the level of technology. And if you have faster than light travel, it is infinitely dangerous.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

Because then beings that are not perfectly altruistic are somewhat dangerous. And then the danger level gets correlated to the level of technology. And if you have faster than light travel, it is infinitely dangerous.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

I know that you're trying to be reassuring, but I find that monologue super non-reassuring.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

I know that you're trying to be reassuring, but I find that monologue super non-reassuring.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

I know that you're trying to be reassuring, but I find that monologue super non-reassuring.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2190 - Peter Thiel

There's so many steps in it, and every single step has to work, just the way you described.