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Peter Thiel

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then that is... That's the envy issue. And then that is sort of where, again, we're not even talking about what to do about this, but this is just sort of a... Well, kind of. Looking up is partly what to do about it. As a description, I would say there is something about...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then that is... That's the envy issue. And then that is sort of where, again, we're not even talking about what to do about this, but this is just sort of a... Well, kind of. Looking up is partly what to do about it. As a description, I would say there is something about...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

late modernity a society that's not dominated by a supernatural being that's sort of you know it's it's atheist the liberal atheist society we live in is one where people look around a great deal it's it's a lot of very unhealthy status competition games that end up driving it um

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

late modernity a society that's not dominated by a supernatural being that's sort of you know it's it's atheist the liberal atheist society we live in is one where people look around a great deal it's it's a lot of very unhealthy status competition games that end up driving it um

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

late modernity a society that's not dominated by a supernatural being that's sort of you know it's it's atheist the liberal atheist society we live in is one where people look around a great deal it's it's a lot of very unhealthy status competition games that end up driving it um

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And that would be sort of a Girardian description of this world where mimesis is far more out of control than ever before. Don't think we can go back. But there are all these ways. It's frustrating, unsatisfactory. It may be apocalyptic, but that's a way to, again, understand this history. And it's in some ways downstream of Christianity. It's downstream of these things being revealed.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And that would be sort of a Girardian description of this world where mimesis is far more out of control than ever before. Don't think we can go back. But there are all these ways. It's frustrating, unsatisfactory. It may be apocalyptic, but that's a way to, again, understand this history. And it's in some ways downstream of Christianity. It's downstream of these things being revealed.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And that would be sort of a Girardian description of this world where mimesis is far more out of control than ever before. Don't think we can go back. But there are all these ways. It's frustrating, unsatisfactory. It may be apocalyptic, but that's a way to, again, understand this history. And it's in some ways downstream of Christianity. It's downstream of these things being revealed.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

In some ways, it's the opposite to it. Because one of the questions, Gerard, if you asked Gerard, you have this theory about mimesis, and there are all these bad forms of mimesis. We have the wrong role models, and then isn't it just, okay, you should be less mimetic? Yeah, no. And then, of course, Girard was, no, this is just the nature.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

In some ways, it's the opposite to it. Because one of the questions, Gerard, if you asked Gerard, you have this theory about mimesis, and there are all these bad forms of mimesis. We have the wrong role models, and then isn't it just, okay, you should be less mimetic? Yeah, no. And then, of course, Girard was, no, this is just the nature.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

In some ways, it's the opposite to it. Because one of the questions, Gerard, if you asked Gerard, you have this theory about mimesis, and there are all these bad forms of mimesis. We have the wrong role models, and then isn't it just, okay, you should be less mimetic? Yeah, no. And then, of course, Girard was, no, this is just the nature.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

You can maybe choose your role model, you can choose Christ, but you can't choose not to be mimetic. By the way, that's the Ayn Rand answer, where in Atlas Shrugged, The bad people are all the people who imitate. They're the second handers. They're the people who don't know what they want and just copy everybody else. And then the really great people are the unmoved movers.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

You can maybe choose your role model, you can choose Christ, but you can't choose not to be mimetic. By the way, that's the Ayn Rand answer, where in Atlas Shrugged, The bad people are all the people who imitate. They're the second handers. They're the people who don't know what they want and just copy everybody else. And then the really great people are the unmoved movers.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

You can maybe choose your role model, you can choose Christ, but you can't choose not to be mimetic. By the way, that's the Ayn Rand answer, where in Atlas Shrugged, The bad people are all the people who imitate. They're the second handers. They're the people who don't know what they want and just copy everybody else. And then the really great people are the unmoved movers.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

They're like Aristotelian gods. They're not influenced by anybody. And it's all from within. But they're united by the same ethos across the entrepreneurs. But the Girardian critique of Ayn Rand would be people like that don't exist. We all exist. grow up deeply in a social context. There's a developmental part to human biology.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

They're like Aristotelian gods. They're not influenced by anybody. And it's all from within. But they're united by the same ethos across the entrepreneurs. But the Girardian critique of Ayn Rand would be people like that don't exist. We all exist. grow up deeply in a social context. There's a developmental part to human biology.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

They're like Aristotelian gods. They're not influenced by anybody. And it's all from within. But they're united by the same ethos across the entrepreneurs. But the Girardian critique of Ayn Rand would be people like that don't exist. We all exist. grow up deeply in a social context. There's a developmental part to human biology.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Ayn Rand doesn't like to talk about children because children are incredibly imitative, both good and bad. This is just the way we are. But so, yes, Girard's answer was never that you could get rid of mimesis or anything like this. Yeah, no, that's not going to happen. Or even that some kind of psychological approach would be, you know, that you talk about your memetic stuff with your therapist.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Ayn Rand doesn't like to talk about children because children are incredibly imitative, both good and bad. This is just the way we are. But so, yes, Girard's answer was never that you could get rid of mimesis or anything like this. Yeah, no, that's not going to happen. Or even that some kind of psychological approach would be, you know, that you talk about your memetic stuff with your therapist.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

Ayn Rand doesn't like to talk about children because children are incredibly imitative, both good and bad. This is just the way we are. But so, yes, Girard's answer was never that you could get rid of mimesis or anything like this. Yeah, no, that's not going to happen. Or even that some kind of psychological approach would be, you know, that you talk about your memetic stuff with your therapist.