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Peter Thiel

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And then there's sort of our cultural transformations that one can describe that at least coincided with us and were correlated. How causal they were is always hard to say. But if we sort of think of the Apollo space program as this... last great, you know, technological scientific project, there's some sense where July of 1969, where we landed on the moon and Woodstock started three weeks later.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And, you know, with benefit of hindsight, in some sense, that's when progress, scientific technological progress stopped and the hippies took over the country. And you can... describe it in many ways, but in some ways you can describe it as a shift from outer space, from exploring the world outside of us, to inner space. And there were sort of all, you know, all these different transformations.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And, you know, with benefit of hindsight, in some sense, that's when progress, scientific technological progress stopped and the hippies took over the country. And you can... describe it in many ways, but in some ways you can describe it as a shift from outer space, from exploring the world outside of us, to inner space. And there were sort of all, you know, all these different transformations.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

And, you know, with benefit of hindsight, in some sense, that's when progress, scientific technological progress stopped and the hippies took over the country. And you can... describe it in many ways, but in some ways you can describe it as a shift from outer space, from exploring the world outside of us, to inner space. And there were sort of all, you know, all these different transformations.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

There was a, you know, and I would describe, you know, yoga, meditation. I would describe, you know, psychedelic drugs. I would describe you know, I don't know, incels playing video games in basements. You know, there was all this incredible, this maybe continued atomization, the navel-gazing, you know, of identity politics in a way. You know, you could say that

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

There was a, you know, and I would describe, you know, yoga, meditation. I would describe, you know, psychedelic drugs. I would describe you know, I don't know, incels playing video games in basements. You know, there was all this incredible, this maybe continued atomization, the navel-gazing, you know, of identity politics in a way. You know, you could say that

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

There was a, you know, and I would describe, you know, yoga, meditation. I would describe, you know, psychedelic drugs. I would describe you know, I don't know, incels playing video games in basements. You know, there was all this incredible, this maybe continued atomization, the navel-gazing, you know, of identity politics in a way. You know, you could say that

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

People often lump, for example, they often lump Marxism and cultural Marxism together. In my telling, these are opposites, because Marxism at least was primarily concerned about the outside, objective, material, economic realities. And then cultural Marxism was like the shift from Apollo to Woodstock, where you just went into the sort of interior world. You no longer...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

People often lump, for example, they often lump Marxism and cultural Marxism together. In my telling, these are opposites, because Marxism at least was primarily concerned about the outside, objective, material, economic realities. And then cultural Marxism was like the shift from Apollo to Woodstock, where you just went into the sort of interior world. You no longer...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

People often lump, for example, they often lump Marxism and cultural Marxism together. In my telling, these are opposites, because Marxism at least was primarily concerned about the outside, objective, material, economic realities. And then cultural Marxism was like the shift from Apollo to Woodstock, where you just went into the sort of interior world. You no longer...

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

We're thinking about this outside world. And in some ways, you stopped asking these questions about economic growth and basic economic prosperity. And then that coincided also with this lack of progress in these things. So I think there were all these kinds of cultural transformations that coincided with this shift. You know, I think the, people often ask why, why this stagnation happened.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

We're thinking about this outside world. And in some ways, you stopped asking these questions about economic growth and basic economic prosperity. And then that coincided also with this lack of progress in these things. So I think there were all these kinds of cultural transformations that coincided with this shift. You know, I think the, people often ask why, why this stagnation happened.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

We're thinking about this outside world. And in some ways, you stopped asking these questions about economic growth and basic economic prosperity. And then that coincided also with this lack of progress in these things. So I think there were all these kinds of cultural transformations that coincided with this shift. You know, I think the, people often ask why, why this stagnation happened.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

My standard, you know, if you agree with this, and of course people can disagree, you know, how much it happened, but if you agree with me that there's been, you know, a slowing down of progress, that, you know, in some sense the singularity was maybe more in the past than in the future. And you always have these questions, why did it happen? And

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

My standard, you know, if you agree with this, and of course people can disagree, you know, how much it happened, but if you agree with me that there's been, you know, a slowing down of progress, that, you know, in some sense the singularity was maybe more in the past than in the future. And you always have these questions, why did it happen? And

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

My standard, you know, if you agree with this, and of course people can disagree, you know, how much it happened, but if you agree with me that there's been, you know, a slowing down of progress, that, you know, in some sense the singularity was maybe more in the past than in the future. And you always have these questions, why did it happen? And

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

My cop-out answer is always that why questions are overdetermined. And it could be, you know, it could be sort of our society became risk-averse or too feminized. Or you could say that You could say that there was too much regulation and bureaucracy, which is sort of a libertarian intuition I have.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

My cop-out answer is always that why questions are overdetermined. And it could be, you know, it could be sort of our society became risk-averse or too feminized. Or you could say that You could say that there was too much regulation and bureaucracy, which is sort of a libertarian intuition I have.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

My cop-out answer is always that why questions are overdetermined. And it could be, you know, it could be sort of our society became risk-averse or too feminized. Or you could say that You could say that there was too much regulation and bureaucracy, which is sort of a libertarian intuition I have.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast
541. Why We Stopped Progressing | Peter Thiel

But I've come to think that one of the bigger factors was the sense that a lot of the science and technology was quite dangerous. It had, at least in a military context, had a dual-use character. And this was...