Peter Van Sant

Lourdes, help me. Calling from a cell phone in the interrogation room, Schwartz begs his former lover turned defense attorney to be his lawyer. Lourdes recalled that conversation for us. I want you to be my attorney.

Recording assistance from Alan Pang and Reginald Bazile. Special thanks to Paramount Podcast Vice President, Megan Marcus. It is written and produced by Alex Schumann. Stephanie Serrano is our editor. Our executive producer is Shira Morris. Our associate producer is Zoe Kolkin. Theme and original music composed by Hans Dale Shee. Cedric Wilson is our sound designer and mixed the episodes.

Recording assistance from Alan Pang and Reginald Bazile. Special thanks to Paramount Podcast Vice President, Megan Marcus. It is written and produced by Alex Schumann. Stephanie Serrano is our editor. Our executive producer is Shira Morris. Our associate producer is Zoe Kolkin. Theme and original music composed by Hans Dale Shee. Cedric Wilson is our sound designer and mixed the episodes.

Yes, you can.

Yes, you can.

Yes, you can.

We also use music from APM and Epidemic Sounds. Fendall Fulton is our fact checker. Our production manager is Tamika Balance-Kolasny. I'm Peter Van Sant. If you're enjoying the show, be sure to rate and review. It helps more people find it and hear our reporting. You can listen to Train to Kill early and ad free right now by subscribing to 48 Hours Plus on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening.

We also use music from APM and Epidemic Sounds. Fendall Fulton is our fact checker. Our production manager is Tamika Balance-Kolasny. I'm Peter Van Sant. If you're enjoying the show, be sure to rate and review. It helps more people find it and hear our reporting. You can listen to Train to Kill early and ad free right now by subscribing to 48 Hours Plus on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for listening.

In the weeks after his arrest, Dr. Schwartz's once secret love life became the talk of the town.

In the weeks after his arrest, Dr. Schwartz's once secret love life became the talk of the town.

In the weeks after his arrest, Dr. Schwartz's once secret love life became the talk of the town.

It was the station's Confession Wednesday, and women were burning up the phone lines.

It was the station's Confession Wednesday, and women were burning up the phone lines.

It was the station's Confession Wednesday, and women were burning up the phone lines.

The calls just kept on coming. We've got to pick up another call. Good morning.

The calls just kept on coming. We've got to pick up another call. Good morning.

The calls just kept on coming. We've got to pick up another call. Good morning.

As Detective Murphy prepared for trial, she was learning a lot more about Schwartz's past.

As Detective Murphy prepared for trial, she was learning a lot more about Schwartz's past.

As Detective Murphy prepared for trial, she was learning a lot more about Schwartz's past.