Peter Van Sant
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He then explained how over time, Mark began stalking and threatening him and his children. The defense made the case that Michael was a loving father and husband with no history of violence, and that Mark was a dangerous stalker with a proven track record of aggression and making threats. When things went south that morning, Michael acted in self-defense.
In stark contrast to the defense's claims, the prosecution made the case that despite Mark's previous actions, Michael took matters into his own hands and murdered Mark in the act of vigilante justice. They pointed to Michael and Jennifer's multiple interactions on October 24th and 28th and the nature of their discussions.
In stark contrast to the defense's claims, the prosecution made the case that despite Mark's previous actions, Michael took matters into his own hands and murdered Mark in the act of vigilante justice. They pointed to Michael and Jennifer's multiple interactions on October 24th and 28th and the nature of their discussions.
They presented evidence of the shell casings at Mark's house that matched the gun Michael tried to dispose of A ballistics expert testified that the angle and location of the shot in Michael's Kevlar vest most likely proved he shot himself. Forensic experts explained that the bloodstains on the porch, hallway walls, carpet, and bedroom matched the sample inside Michael's SUV.
They presented evidence of the shell casings at Mark's house that matched the gun Michael tried to dispose of A ballistics expert testified that the angle and location of the shot in Michael's Kevlar vest most likely proved he shot himself. Forensic experts explained that the bloodstains on the porch, hallway walls, carpet, and bedroom matched the sample inside Michael's SUV.
After a month-long trial, the jury deliberated for four days before finding Michael guilty of first-degree murder, where he was sentenced to 26 and a half years in prison. But despite the jury's findings, a lingering question remains. On the morning of October 28, 2009, was Mark Stover the hunter or the hunted?
After a month-long trial, the jury deliberated for four days before finding Michael guilty of first-degree murder, where he was sentenced to 26 and a half years in prison. But despite the jury's findings, a lingering question remains. On the morning of October 28, 2009, was Mark Stover the hunter or the hunted?
I do. One of the great levelers of human beings, whether you are wealthy or poor... whether you're highly educated or not, are the base instinctual emotions that all of us are born with, obsession and anger, hate, jealousy, envy. And regardless of how successful you are or how important you may be in this world,
I do. One of the great levelers of human beings, whether you are wealthy or poor... whether you're highly educated or not, are the base instinctual emotions that all of us are born with, obsession and anger, hate, jealousy, envy. And regardless of how successful you are or how important you may be in this world,
It's amazing how those emotions can take people down, the smartest and the brightest among us. They can be taken down by these base instinctual emotions. And in this case, that's what you have a perfect example of. Linda Updike, her father, Wally Updike, owned Chateau Saint-Michel Winery in the state of Washington. It's the largest winery there and one of the largest in the United States.
It's amazing how those emotions can take people down, the smartest and the brightest among us. They can be taken down by these base instinctual emotions. And in this case, that's what you have a perfect example of. Linda Updike, her father, Wally Updike, owned Chateau Saint-Michel Winery in the state of Washington. It's the largest winery there and one of the largest in the United States.
He also owned K2, which was a snow ski snowboarding company, and they sell all over the world. It's interesting because I'm from up there. One of my good buddies, his wife was friends growing up with Linda Updike. And so I had ways of connecting with her because of the fact I was from the state of Washington in the Seattle area. And I knew Anna Cordes so well. And I knew people who knew her.
He also owned K2, which was a snow ski snowboarding company, and they sell all over the world. It's interesting because I'm from up there. One of my good buddies, his wife was friends growing up with Linda Updike. And so I had ways of connecting with her because of the fact I was from the state of Washington in the Seattle area. And I knew Anna Cordes so well. And I knew people who knew her.
She took me to her home, basically her hideout in Winthrop, Washington, about 160 miles from Anacortes on the other side of the Cascade Mountains. And I had no idea what I would be running into when I got there, which was fascinating. She turned her house into an armory, into a fortress. And as we're walking around, she would lift a tapestry and there would be a handgun on a magnet on the wall.
She took me to her home, basically her hideout in Winthrop, Washington, about 160 miles from Anacortes on the other side of the Cascade Mountains. And I had no idea what I would be running into when I got there, which was fascinating. She turned her house into an armory, into a fortress. And as we're walking around, she would lift a tapestry and there would be a handgun on a magnet on the wall.
She'd open a drawer, there would be a handgun. In a closet would be a shotgun. There wasn't a amount of space more than six feet where she didn't have a firearm that she could get to. But here's someone who had everything. And yet she gets caught up in this with these base emotions. Mark Stover, the dog trainer to the stars. Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam was one of his clients. Ichiro.
She'd open a drawer, there would be a handgun. In a closet would be a shotgun. There wasn't a amount of space more than six feet where she didn't have a firearm that she could get to. But here's someone who had everything. And yet she gets caught up in this with these base emotions. Mark Stover, the dog trainer to the stars. Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam was one of his clients. Ichiro.
Howard Schultz, who at the time was the chairman of Starbucks. Here's a man who had come from poverty, built, along with Linda, a million-dollar-a-year dog training business, and he falls prey to the most base emotions. And then when Michael Oakes joins the fray, he, according to him anyway, is threatened by Stover, including a reference to possibly harming Oakes' kids, which freaked him out.
Howard Schultz, who at the time was the chairman of Starbucks. Here's a man who had come from poverty, built, along with Linda, a million-dollar-a-year dog training business, and he falls prey to the most base emotions. And then when Michael Oakes joins the fray, he, according to him anyway, is threatened by Stover, including a reference to possibly harming Oakes' kids, which freaked him out.
And then all of these people in this churn of emotion, we end up with this tragedy. So it's one of the things that in true crime, people can do, the smartest people can do the dumbest things. And that's part of the fascination. And with the time we have to tell this story, you go down that road of obsessive behavior and control.