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Peter Zeihan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
732 total appearances

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Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

We would need every scrap of lithium and copper and molybdenum and tantalum and graphite and all the rest from the entire planet and no one else could have any at all.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Just to do EVs just here.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

So no, it was always fucking moronic.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

That, and the cost that's attached to it, is onerous.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

So of course, if you have to pay for it all yourself, sales are basically dropping to zero.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Tesla, Musk, talked a good game.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Not viable economically, not viable geopolitically, and we don't have the processing materials here in the United States to do it anyway.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

For Tesla at this moment, as we understand physical chemistry, yes.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

There's nothing viable at Tesla.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

There's very little that's viable at EV writ large anyway.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

even before you consider the cost of the supporting infrastructure build-out, which is a couple of trillion dollars on top of everything else.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Just the vehicles don't do what they have been advertised to do.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

They're also net dirtier than gasoline because of the production cycle on the front end.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Now, if you change the electrical system in a way that I don't understand today,

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

I reserve the right to change my mind.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

If you move away from lithium as the core component of battery storage into something that is less environmentally damaging its production and more energy dense and can take the vibrations better, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

But in the last five years, I haven't even seen a prototype system suggested for any of this.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

The closest I would say would be the slow motion move from lithium cobalt batteries to lithium iron batteries.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

That might help with energy storage at the grid level.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

It might really make a difference.