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Peter Zeihan

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1440 total appearances

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Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

But the carbon cost of generating the vehicle, especially the battery in the front end, is just so much more.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

And if you're living in a place that's predominantly coal and you're driving an American-style sedan, you're over the long term โ€“

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

generating a lot more carbon than anything before.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Now, those are some very broad statements and there are a thousand exceptions to them based on local situations.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

So, for example, the Chinese vehicles from a weight basis are less than half that of the American vehicles.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

They would never pass our safety tests, but they're smaller and they

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

kill a lot of people but because there's so much lighter a lot of what i just said does not apply to the chinese situation so a chinese chinese ev can break even on a carbon cost basis within 10 years maybe but at the price of a few pedestrians

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Um, it's disgusting in every sense of the word.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Yeah.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

environmentally, chemically, and socially.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

I didn't top off my study for this.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

A big one's graphite.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Graphite's basically a synthetic form of carbon.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

There is a natural graphite, which is vastly preferred, but the chemical structure is very limited to a few specific mines, so the cost goes up as more of it's used.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

There's a synthetic version.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Basically, you're using it for the electricity

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

regulating the electricity flow in a battery.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

And if the graphite is not the right kind, you basically get the electricity starting to leak out into the battery itself, which can get a little blammy, but more likely it's just going to be a huge efficiency loss.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Copper, obviously.

Modern Wisdom
#1028 - Peter Zeihan - The New World Order Is Here

Anything that uses electricity is going to use a huge amount of copper, lithium we've already covered, cobalt's a mess, manganese, using a lot of alloys for both copper and steel.