Peyton Dix
Appearances
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Yeah, and I love Bella Ramsey. I think they are so, I mean, obviously, I think I've talked about this before, but I love them in Catherine Called Birdie, the Lena Dunham movie on Amazon Prime that no one saw, that everyone should see because it really is that good and it moves me to tears every single time. You made me watch that movie, if you don't remember. I do remember. I needed something.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
One of many things I've made you do that was for the best. True.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
But I really like that, like, they are playing Ellie this season with a lot of almost, like, the annoyingness of being 19 when you think you know what's best for you and you think you know what you want to do. And, like, leaning into, I don't know, there's that, like, part of the character I think is really smart. Because what I like about The Last of Us is that no one is, like, perfect.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
And you, like, understand everyone's motivations. Yeah. Even though they're always at cross purposes. Like, I totally see why Abby wanted to kill Ellie.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
pedro pascal but then i also am like he shouldn't have died and he was doing the right thing for himself and that this sets up like this daddy issues kind of complex coming on the heels of white lotus girl if i were mike white i'd be pissed mike white god damn it
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
No, no. Actually, it's, like, it's a lot worse. It's, like, now probably damn near 99.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Yeah, me too. I'm a real lover girl. Okay. Be quiet over there.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Well, as you can see, I'm in Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Back to her roots. Uh-oh.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Okay. I want to hear about the Childish and Petty Tour. How's it going?
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
That is about how it feels. I feel like, um, what's that blue girl's name from Inside Out? The one you be ragging on all the time? The girl you hate to see coming. Yes, her. Sadness? Sadness? The girl that you're like, literally, please, like, don't share your location with her. Take her off your location. That's how I feel. No, let me say this. I have to say a moment of silence. Holding it?
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Know thyself. Actually, there's nothing wrong with that. I have to say, there's not a lot wrong with that.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Oh my goodness. Hunter's nodding a little too hard. Yes. Happy tour season. I'm a Leo, so I'm healed. Oh my God. No, you're not.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
For the Pope. Oh my god! Okay, I'm sorry. The Pope who did say the F-slur, okay? A few times. Okay. And yet, I'm not going to say anything after that.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
And that's because I'm not. And I wasn't. And I won't be. That's the real issue. Leo's behind bars.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Well, I'm just saying, yes, I wished him the best, famously. And look, honestly, dying the day after Easter, a little bit, you know what I'm going to say, a little bit stunt queen. Yeah. Little bit knows what he's doing. You said, oh, he gagged us. A little bit good at his job. Yeah. And also dying after the conclave Oscar race. He said, girl, it's a Nora's. I prayed about it.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Get me back to God's country with a photo of his private jet. I was like, oh my gosh. I said, God is not picking up your calls. Let me tell you that. He's straight to voicemail. All right. God's country is New York City. Excuse me. It's Studio 8H.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
He said, I know better. I'm Black. I'm from Oklahoma. Of course, I grew up in the church. Oh, yeah.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Okay. I have one more question about SNL. Yeah. Trending topic. I don't know if you saw that there was the white POTUS sketch about the white Lotus and Amy Lou Wood, the actress found it very like personally hurtful for like making fun of, she felt her teeth. And I think Sarah Sherman sent her flowers after, but I'm wondering from your experience and point of view,
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
How do you navigate, I don't know, when like maybe a sketch hurts someone's feelings or do you think that it's like not that big of a deal?
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
That's how I know you're new to this. You're not true to this. That's how I know you weren't in the church. You didn't grow up in the church. I grew up near the church. Because I've been, duh.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
He said, so I'm just going to breathe. And that, yeah, that's our friendship for sure. Yeah. No, for sure.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Yeah. Well, yes. And I have to say my favorite quote of his, after he got surgery, he was like, I'm still alive, though some want me dead. Talking about his like more conservative critics. I was like, oh, girl. Yeah. Was he a Leo? No, I think he was a Sagittarius. That's what I just saw on Twitter today, so I don't know. Oh, fire sign.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Oh, the jackpot. All four. Okay, second, New York.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I know someone tries to be long-winded, but I keep her. I hold her. I don't know who you're talking about, actually. I don't know who...
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
But he was pretty more liberal than you would think for, like, in the Catholic Church.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Coachella means one thing to me as someone who's never been. And it's the photo of Leo DiCaprio whispering into the ear of Rihanna and her. It's very that one meme, you know, those like the black woman and the white boy in the pool and he's trying to talk to her. Yes. It's very that. Anyway, we're nine years removed from that. So 10 year anniversary, we will be reporting live on the scene.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Oh, Jesus. But how do you feel about Coachella this year? Lady Gaga, Green Day, Post Malone, Travis Scott, headliners.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Me. Oh. Child of God. Yeah. Let's just stick with the Pope. Let's just stick with him. I was reaching.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
You're educating me because you girl, you know, Coachella is not on my radar. Unless Justin Bieber is headlining.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Did you see those videos of him? Yes. And it was a little scary. Yeah. It's making me sad. But what do you think about Charlie and the sash that people are talking about? The should have been a headliner. And then the other thing, Brad Summer is over. Now it's like Darren Aronofsky Summer. Okay.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
It's very in conversation with like, we don't build statues of critics t-shirt. Yeah, but that's so her.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Let me say something about my sister. You've obviously never listened to Sympathy is a Knife while driving past your high school because it's a knife when the old fans hate the new fans.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Yep. Yep. I know why my allergies are bad because it's Taurus season. Oh, you're nasty like that.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I love that Great Gatsby ass song. I love it. I love it. And the eyes of Dr. TJ Echelberger on us all. Was it TJ? MJ?
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Okay, the only thing that I saw organically from Coachella was James Charles on my For You page. I'm like, what? Who? Who? I'm saging myself. I'm putting a crucifix on the door. I don't know why. Every video, I couldn't get away from him.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I know. It's really Carrie Bradshaw banging on that window, degrees outside.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Well, now that you brought it up, I've been to Coachella twice.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Did you see Haim before Beyonce or no? Did I see Haim before Beyonce? Yeah, they opened for her. Yep. For Beachella.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
And again, I grew up in the fires of the Baudelaire children. So yeah, The Last of Us isn't shocking me. I've been through a lot. I've been through it all, actually.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Oh, I can tell you. Wait, I'm one week sober. On purpose? No, because I've been taking Tylenol. I just want to drink on it.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I'm like, girl, the things I've done, I've done more with less. Yes, I'm sorry. I love my liver. Excuse me. I love my kidneys. Excuse me. What are we talking about this week? Oh my God. Season two of The Last of Us and Coachella. And we're joined by Punky Johnson to talk about gay things, ghetto things, SNL, and Lisa from Temecula.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Are you looking for a home for your worst opinions?
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Don't just slide SNL in the middle there because I'm actually so mad that I was down astronomical with a sinus infection.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Okay, let me say this. I'm watching this. I did not watch season or episode one as it aired. So I just watched them both together yesterday, Sunday. And kids who grew up on a series of unfortunate events. Yeah, we're okay. We're okay today. Because it's like things go from bad to worse to even worse to even worse than you ever thought possible before.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
And there's suddenly a baby with really sharp teeth. Yeah. Things have just gone from worse to worse, sir. Series of unfortunate events, children, children raised by those book series. Yes, we know how bad it can get. And then it can always get worse.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
That's crazy given your lack of any curiosity about the church.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I liked it. It feels like it was so long ago now. But I...
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
vividly remember being in london on a trip up late watching the last of us like trying to like watch it with everyone else because i i really liked it it kind of reminds me like a western yeah like it reminds me of like oh my god unforgiven i feel like the last i suppose a lot to the clint eastwood movie unforgiven which i do really like a lot the only thing never mind i don't want to shake the table too much no shake it because i think i know you're gonna say go ahead and shake it's wobbly already shake it no you say it because if you say it it's not gonna sound as bad
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Really? Yeah. Yeah, I'm scared to say it, but I agree. I thought that episode was lovely, but a bit, I would say, emotionally kind of obvious in its construction. And I think that there were a lot stronger episodes, particularly Ellie and her first experience of love.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
He's the only person in my life and I hate him. But also her kind of trying to experience, she like has a crush on her. Bestie. As far as we know, straight best friend.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
You call me straight every single day. Me too.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
No, but that was like, I love that how The Last of Us will weave in these like, you know, really human, emotionally complex stories about like love and coming of age and partnership and like family dynamics into what is also like a zombie apocalypse. Yeah. Dystopian kind of future. Yeah. I think that's what the show does really well.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
No, had no idea. I'm not on the computer like that. I'm not a gamer like that. So I don't play these games. It's like you are on the computer like that, but you live on twitter.com.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
No, I'm not playing. I play other games. I don't play those games. But I was... Caitlin Deaver, when I catch you, when I catch you... When I catch you, I'm giving you an Emmy. That's why I was thinking about the 52% of white women voting for Trump. I was like, oh, girl, white women, they need to be left in the past. Oh, my goodness. No, that was rough to watch.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
But I have to say, her whole monologue... Okay, so key, like, setup for this is that in season one, Joel and Ellie went to the Fireflies with the militia group that they've been, like, trying to get to for... the entire season, basically they get to the fireflies and they want to sort of like harvest Ellie's blood to make a vaccine, which would kill her.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
So then Joel kills all the fireflies, basically like shoots up a hospital and point blank shoots the surgeon who's like about to perform this procedure. And that ends up being the father of Abby, who then is like, I'm going to avenge my dad on some real shit.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
But what I couldn't get over, I was like, okay, love Caitlin Deaver as an actor. I think she's very talented. And I do like her in this. Yes. But it was like kind of losing me when she's giving this whole monologue about like, oh, I want to kill you. I want to be slow. And Joel being like, I'm sorry, can you just like get it over with? Hunter, us. No, truly.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
You know how I feel about a long-winded film. Me, long-winded. You being like, come on.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
oh lord let's talk about a thesis statement thesis statement topic sentence and that's why I was standing with her I said no get things off your chest girl express yourself you have you have the time right now no I was like please and you know everyone else in that room was like oh god here she goes when she starts they're like sick of her like just do it pull out the gun we are stuck we are done all of her little friends were like oh girl they said you're lucky you get to die at the end of this we have to we're still friends with her she
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I think that she, despite being pretty petite, I think she has like a real, and a lot of these things like intensity that is like, Ooh, I don't want to be stuck in an elevator with her. I'm clutching my purse a little bit closer.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
I don't want to. Her in those little, those like almost like heeled sneaker hiking boots she was wearing. I was like, oh girl, I'm not trusting a girl in those.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
But we saw those last season. I know, but watching it in action like that. We need to talk about all the new cast members. Oh, and there's a few. Let me say this. I'm so here for Ellie's maybe getting a girlfriend, that whole arc. But I do have two crushes on this show.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Their names are Young Mazino and Danny Ramirez.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Wait, who's Danny Ramirez? He was in Top Gun Maverick and he was like the guy on Abby's platoon. I don't know what I'm talking about. And her little posse. The one that like kicked Ellie when she was down.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
Oh, yeah. Wait, so she's on Abby's, in Abby's, like, group chat? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. The black girl with the shaved head. Yeah. She's fine as fuck.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
The wig in the first episode, I was like, mm, what's going on here? Yeah. What are they doing to my sister? What's happening here? And then the shaved head reveal, I was like, okay, it's all coming together. Freed her, freed her. And then to come, Jeffrey Wright. I love a man who loves an HBO check. I'm sorry.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
But also, if you haven't seen Jeffrey Wright in Angels in America, the HBO miniseries directed by Mike Nichols, one of my favorite performances of all time.
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
You know what I was thinking, actually, just today? And we can get into this later. But, like, you know that, like, how 52% of white women voted for Trump used to be, like, a big thing in our culture? And now it's, like, well, actually a lot more than that did. Like, we're so far beyond that now, you know?
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
No, but I think she was kind of like, she came around in the end. They kind of redeemed her in the end.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Okay. Number one, obviously Dana. Yeah. She kept that hospital going with gum and a bobby pin. And a cigarette. And a cigarette. And a cigarette. She kept it moving. Taking Dr. Robbie, of course. I just love the way Dr. Robbie, those glasses too. Mm-hmm. Oh, my gosh.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Yes, yes. Oh, Dr. King. Who's that? The white girl. Bryan Cranston's daughter, whose sister's on the spectrum. Oh, wait. Oh, my God, Mel. With the blonde. I can't believe I forgot Mel in my rankings. Put her up. Put her up. Yes. I thought that she was so wonderful. And it's like, I could never be that patient.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
And so when I see someone patient, I think... It won't be me, but maybe one day in a fantasy I can aspire.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
No, I'm not going to watch Elf. I'm grown. No, I love Elf, but I have to watch it on the holidays. Okay, then Dr. Abbott because I'll see him after the shift. And then Dr. McKay, Dr. Bangs. She really went through it with the ankle monitor, with her hot ass ex-husband, first of all. And then his younger girlfriend who wore like the bonus mom shirt.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
I was like, girl, you are going through it here and at home. Oh my goodness. You never get any reprieve. Yeah, handcuffed and everything.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
And then after that, I think it was Dr. Garcia, that one doctor. She's only in it for a couple of scenes, but she's always like very like she's going to talk to Santos and was like, I don't want to hear this. If you're talking to me about Dr. Langdon, I don't want to hear it. Oh, yeah. It's your first day.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Yeah. Yeah. Well, the one who's at the bottom of my list, Dr. Whitaker. I don't use people's names.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
I don't know. Well, he's the one that got pissed on. Oh. Yeah, him. Yeah, I think he's at the bottom of my list only because at the end of the day, it's like you didn't really do a lot. Like I feel bad for him because someone died on his watch on his shift and he like really couldn't have helped it. Although I guess we don't know.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
But I just kind of felt like he's like, you know, not essential to the plot. Yeah, I found myself wanting to fast forward through his scene. Yeah. And also, I didn't realize that Santos is British, and so is Whitaker. In real life? Yeah. And Santos' accent on Locke the entire episode. He sounded like Idris Elba when he was in Molly's Game. I was like, girl. She sounded like Idris Elba in The Wire.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
He sounded like Idris Elba in Molly's Game. Accent dropping.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Okay, God forbid I say he sounded like Emma Watson in Little Women. Ugh, I'm going to drag my...
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Sorry. Okay, well, next season. Yeah. It's going to be the 4th of July. That's what I read. God. That's going to be crazy. That's going to be crazy. People who celebrate the 4th of July, oh God, the most annoying people on earth.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
No, I grew up in Oklahoma. Oh, you were on the streets? Yeah, when I was like younger, we would do fireworks and stuff. And then I grew up and, you know, open a book. Nothing to celebrate here.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Oh, like a Thanksgiving. I think like a Thanksgiving thing would be fun.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Yeah, they don't. You know, it doesn't need to be the pit. It needs to be like NCIS, like a cop drama. Yes, taking Jamie Lee Curtis right to jail. I want to see them at Emerson College, a little building during orientation. Imagine them responding to like a dorm issue. That would be so embarrassing.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
No, because I loved myself. I was only in Piano Row. We can't talk about this too much. I don't want to endorse Emerson College, God forbid. Okay, last question. What should Dr. Robbie do on his day off? This was a question I posed to the newsletter. Oh, I'm so curious what the answers were. Girl, you know, people were being hung up. Everyone said, me, me, chorus of me, me, me.
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I don't think so. I don't think so. Because I also think, you know, low key, she should have an Emmy, too. And I would love to see it. Yeah. Nothing is crazier than the reveal that Dr. Robbie's ex-girlfriend was white. No. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was nasty, actually.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
We're right here. That really, that like shocked everyone. Everyone's like, what? Even white people. They were like, no. It was like the Elvis clip. He's white. He's white. He's white. Yeah.
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Imagine us being on the pit. We're sitting there just like, oh, somebody needs help over there. No, I'm live on Instagram. It's not me, though.
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Like how it feels to have tight shoulders. You were like, oh, my shoulders are tight. I'm like, that's how tight my shoulders are. That's how tight my body is all the time. That's how tight my shoulders are all the time. Yeah. Okay. Favorite moments of us seeing Mary J. Blige.
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You know, it's hard being two best friends who host a podcast. So we invited two other best friends who host a podcast to talk to us about it. Today, we are joined by Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin. They are comedians, actresses, and podcasters. Sydney has appeared on Abbott Elementary and Comedy Central's Up Next Showcase. Marie has appeared on Broad City, Comedy Central, and the BET Awards.
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And together, they host the podcast,
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Yeah, yeah. I think I start off with hate, but like in deep, it's love. You're working toward love. It's all love. Yeah. I like that about you. Everything is peaceful love.
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First of all, her coming up on like the far stage, you know, like the ancillary stage and then getting in what can be described as like a tiara. Yeah. Like kind of like a tiara to go to like the main stage. The main stage being two hands manicured down, of course, holding a crown. And I said, absolutely, you should.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
A good storyline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People who aren't messy are boring. That's what they don't talk about. They have nothing going on. Yeah. Yeah. So when we were on your show, we talked about how the four of us like are kind of parallels. Friends who've been like close for a long time now have a podcast. I want to know how you guys navigate that.
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Do you have like conversations that you're like, we need to save this for the pod? Because that's how we are sometimes.
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Oh, that part. That part. I don't know which notes app it's in.
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Wait, you're kind of this people's princess.
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I love that you can keep multiple storylines in your head. Cause that's, that's, that's like, yeah.
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No, no, listen, and I will stand by it. Mary J. Blige. And I say it with love. That, she's from the hood. She is a hood bitch. And I love it about her. She is the last real hood bitch. She really is. At one point in the show, sweating on, she was flat on, I think she was singing No More Drama. She was flat on her back. And I mean, not flat on her back, like, like just arms outstretched.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
Okay, no, that's a really good question because I'm trying to think. I'm like, who am I in this dynamic? Is that not obvious? Okay, tell me since it's obvious.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
That's true. How are you? Everyone is your friend. And you're only a certain...
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
But I remember everything about everyone. Oh. Okay. I remember the girl who was late to Rachel's birthday brunch in 2014, two hours late, said, oh my God, you guys ordered without me? Yeah, I remember that.
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
I think I know what you're putting down. You're... lost trying to get to Mary J. Blige, someone is like, where is Peyton? Do you have her location? I'm like, of course I do. We're trying to figure out where you are. Not on her way, by the way.
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But speaking of orbit... Speaking of orbit, incredible transition. Oh, thank God. Speaking of orbit, something that we have to get your guys' point of view on is the all-female trip to space that happened. It was Lauren Sanchez, Gayle King, Katy Perry... and some other women went to space for just about truly four minutes. They spent four minutes in space and then came right back down.
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I watched it this morning with my dog and it was like I had ordered a smoothie and it still hadn't gotten there and they had come and gone. They had come and returned.
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Katy Perry sang in space and I heard her through like the live feed on CBS singing, but I couldn't tell what she was singing. And she got back to us and said, I sang What a Wonderful World.
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No, they asked her to though. They're like, do you want to like, could you do Roar? And she goes, I don't want to make it about me. She should not be singing Roar in space. She'd be singing E.T. in space. E.T. That's what they asked for though. They asked for Roar.
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Like she said, who cares? No, she was laid out. She was laid out singing, singing, singing. But what actually did piss me off. Oh yeah, no. Was when she was singing. What was it? Was it All Night Long? No, it was Knock on Cry. When she passed off the mic? She had her hand on her hip. The microphone was out in her hand. She said...
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Did they get paid to go to space? I don't know if they got paid or if it was like a spawn thing. Cause it was sponsored by Jeff Bezos's, like his like company does it. Okay. So free Amazon for a year.
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And let's talk about best friendship because Oprah was there in Texas, like where they blasted off from, technical term, wearing yellow. And when Oprah was like crying, it was so crazy. And like imagine that waiting room of like Oprah, Gail's two kids, Jeff Bezos, just waiting for the five minutes. Also Orlando Bloom. Oh, period.
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And Katy Perry had brought a daisy with her because her daughter's name is Daisy Bloom. Oh, that's all the nice things she did. And that's giving allergy season. Yeah.
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Don't say that too much because I'll dox you. Happened to some of us on this show before. Period. Me. Okay, so is Katy Perry and Gayle King going to space, mess or living? I think their reaction when they landed is mess.
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Yeah, it does kind of feel like they were going to spaces and they were sitting in a high chair. It's like your feet could touch the ground, but they didn't. Just elevated.
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Be the regular folk. No, this is the kind of greed they talked about in the Bible. This is like end times greed. For sure. For sure.
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I don't know that I want Katy Perry to be the representation of all of humanity. No. That's a little bit crazy.
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No, they just send the worst. They just send the worst.
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I was like, wait, no, this is not the random people in Queens show. This is the Mary J. Bly show. I actually wanted to hear you sing it. But she did do that for almost every song. Well, no, that's not true. For all of her big songs, like the really like... What else did she do it for? She was passing that mic around. She did it. Yeah, she did it a lot. But then there was like one girl.
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It was so funny that on CBS the whole morning, it was Gail goes to space. That was like the chyron for every single moment of this. I was like, oh my goodness, you really are playing in her face. If she gets top billing on this, don't associate me with that. That's too much.
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No, you know what I'm going to say. It's that woman that you were telling us about who ran over someone with her car in the Hamptons. We return to that often.
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Free Lizzy. Lizzy Grubman Innocent, actually.
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Free Lizzy. Free. Thank you. Thank you. And Marie, what do you think is your favorite piece of celebrity mess lore?
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And that's Trump's Department of Education. No one can spell Ray J. Yeah.
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Moesha. Yeah. I'm like about to choke. That is so funny. That's so crazy. Yeah. Okay. Mass ladies. Thank you for joining us. And where can people find you and your show? Oh girl, everywhere you find podcasts, you can find this.
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Oh, I'm Going Down. That was the one where she like had really just like gave it to like a random like white girl in the audience. I
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Boot cam. Let's talk about boot cam. Boot cam. Oh, I was going to answer your story. Because it was so... Okay, so before the show even started, there was like a thing that was like, if you're wearing your boots... Tag the boot cam. And the bitches were wearing their boots. Let me tell you that. Boots the house down. Red, leather, fur, so much fur. A lot of them were above the knee.
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You did. Thank God. But we got a little sneak peek. Yes, yeah. So a couple weeks ago, we went to the USM Hauler store. There's like a listening room in the back, which is so beautiful. And it was like such a perfect small album listening thing where we got to hear the album on like these amazing speakers. And it all like started to snow as we were listening, which was –
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I will say pretty emotional. We are both fresh off of breakups. So it was Hunter saying that.
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I was really in my feelings. And it's funny. I feel like with Bon Iver and like, you know, I don't know who else. It's like, oh, I listened to this music when I was in high school. And I'm like still listening to it now. And it's still like interesting. Yeah. I will say I had to call our friend Haley to the red table because she was like, Bon Iver. You mean like skinny love Bon Iver?
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Like you were listening to that? I was like, girl, yes. Come into 2025. Welcome.
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No, you were looking different. You were moving different.
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And then I did, you told me about doing Reiki, how it like really changed your day, whatever. I went to the same woman. Yeah. A day later, I did Reiki.
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And also, I'm like, oh my God, I can do anything. Yes, I did Reiki with the same woman. And the first thing she said when she got done, because I fell asleep for a little bit of it, obviously. I love a nap. She was like, well, you're very guarded. I was like, oh, totally. I was like, that's how I know it's not like bull crap. It must be real. That was the first thing she got from me.
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And then, of course, I feel like something was like misaligned in the universe because I got a call from my mom right as I walked out because, you know, she would not have been supportive of me doing Reiki.
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I didn't tell her. I was like, oh, yeah. She's like, what's going on with you? I was like, I'm good. And you?
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Yes, but I love this album. And I think it's, it was just so like, okay, favorite songs. Day one, walk home, everything is peaceful. And if only I could wait. Even listening, I was like, before I knew like any of the features, whatever, I was like, oh, that's the voice of Danielle Heim. Oh, yeah. You know your sisters. My girl. I know my girl. But I love, I love this album.
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I was like, wow, this is like so hopeful, but also moody, but also like... I don't... Maybe it is the artist's way.
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There's something so springy about this album. It feels like renewal rebirth.
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I was like, one thing about Mary, she's going to wear a boot.
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Yeah, yeah. A lot of this album feels like settling your own, like, self-disappointment in a way. Like, understanding, like, I'm not where I thought I would be, but I'm somewhere different and almost greater. Yeah. That seems to be a big theme of this album. I wish I could breathe through my nose as we're talking about this. Fresh breath, new start, all this. And I'm like, I have allergies.
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Spring, in many ways. Spring is springing. Spring is springing. There are so many, like, collabs as part of this rollout. Yeah. But the biggest collab is that Bon Iver has his little beanie on and he's hot now. Justin Vernon.
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Yeah. When the hat comes on, I'm like, oh. I see a little something.
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He is so in your Q zone of men that you like. I love it. Yeah. That's so your type. Thank you.
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Wait, there's some healing that needs to happen. I don't even know what, like, it probably has happened. There's so many, many such cases. There are literally, there are many such cases. I don't even know what you're referring to.
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No, I fuck with this album heavy. It has been, it will be on my Spotify wrapped. But even like pre-Spotify rap, when we had like the stream, I was listening to it so much. Oh yeah. Me too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is my emotional support Bon Iver album. Press play. Everything really like is peaceful love.
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You know, I have to stop passing a hospital and think, put me in coach. I know what I'm doing. Hunter like trips on purpose.
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One thing about Mary J. Blige. Oh, what a night. What a night I will never forget. A night I will always remember. That's my sister for real. Listening to Mary J. Blige on the way to school to now once in a generation talent. Yeah. I love her.
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Here you go. Dance background. Oh, God. Mary, she's beyond it. She transcends dance. It's like, it's physical. It's movement. It's movement. She's like, she's like Tish movement class.
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Our managing producer is Taylor Sniffen. Nick Ryan is our senior managing producer. Our producer is Kate Young. Our senior producers are Candice Manriquez-Wren and Brian Taylor-White. Executive producers are Dave Easton, Erin O'Flaherty, and Marshall Louis.
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I was in a bad place. You were in a bad place. I understood.
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Yeah. A rare mid-concert break. Like there were dance breaks, but there was like, they fully had, who was the DJ? I can't remember his name. Funk Flux. Yeah. Yeah. That was crazy. Sorry. Sorry. If you only knew how much cold medicine I'm on right now. Yeah, the rare like mid-concert break that like he comes back on and then she comes back on. And I was like, all right, Mary.
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And that's why we love her. Yes. Oh, I love her so much. But she redeemed herself in your eyes. Yeah, here's the thing about Mary J. Blige.
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I hope someday someone says that about me. Queen, mother to many, nasty.
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And it was so... Okay, sorry. To be clear, I sound like this because of allergies and also because in the rain, I trekked to... Elwood. Was that what it was called? Elwood? Somewhere deep in Queens because I had to see Mary J. Blige live. Yeah. And we were offered tickets and seats in a box and we went and my life has changed. I'm a different woman than I was before.
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Harry said, don't do that. I don't see a problem with it. Wow. Well, listen. Talk about going through it. You know what I was thinking? What did Dr. Robbie do after his pit shift? You know he listened to Samaria J. Blige in the car, in the car home. You know he did because he really went through it. No, no more drama.
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This week, we are talking about the final hour of our shift at the Pittsburgh hospital, the pit, i.e. the pit finale. And excuse me for advocating for a man, but we'll be talking about Bon Iver, Justin Vernon, new album, and that he's hot now.
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What a shift. 15 hours later, huh? Oh my gosh. My knees are buckling. under the weight of the stress of this one shift. The stress that you're holding from watching The Pit. Yes, yes. No, listen, I need 30 cc's of ketamine right now. I need whatever else they do on that show.
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We don't know. There were drugs in his locker, but we don't know how they got there or why.
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That was so crazy. Because Dr. Robbie had a breakdown after he couldn't save his light-skinned, almost stepson's girlfriend. And let me tell you, Dr. Robbie having a... White wife? No, not white wife. White ex-wife? No, they were never married. They were just dating. But that boy looked mixed. But anyway, Dr. Harvey did have like a breakdown because it has been a very stressful day for my man.
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Yeah. It was the anniversary of his like mentor's death or whatever. He'd been through more than Mary J. Blige in her divorce. And yet, nevertheless, he persisted.
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What else happened? Santos, Dr. Santos, who had a nasty attitude.
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The whole shift. The whole shift. And it was her first shift too. I'm like, girl, how do you start off on a bad foot like that at a new job on day one? No, she got on my last nerve. But, I mean, complicated character. Listen, what do we love? Strong female characters. Do we?
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I don't want... Okay. Sorry. I saw Jeff Bezos today and he looked like a chapped lip. Okay. That was set to reach.
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Yes, yes, yes. Went through everything.
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Wow. Maybe you are chapstick. I redeemed myself. You saw it live here. Who else? Who else? Oh, I have to say Javadi, like the young kind of prodigy doctor whose mom is a surgeon upstairs. I love the upstairs downstairs of the pit, you know, like the kind of like class war. Yeah, yeah.
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Javadi kind of checks her mom that one episode because of Dr. McKay, Dr. Bangs, checking her earlier, you know, each one teach one. And she tries to, you know, kind of hit on Mateo, the hot nurse with the curls. Who's gay. He's gay. To me. No, he just has curly hair. He's not gay. He's just biracial. Yeah, yeah. And then Mateo is like, do you want to get a drink after? Not like a drink drink.
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A group. Like it's a group thing, which he's quick to clarify. Yeah. And then, Charger's Dana, who got punched in the face during her shift by, he's, we don't know that he's MAGA, but he seems MAGA. He's MAGA. What did you say? MAGA teeth.
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MAGA forehead. He has MAGA teeth, MAGA forehead. MAGA facial hair, too.
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You really are. And she was like, I think this is my last day because I can't do this shit anymore. And... And does she say goodbye? We don't know. Yeah.
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Yes. Dr. Abbott clipping off his little leg like he's Aviva Drescher in Real Housewives of New York. You don't even know what I'm talking about. I know. I know it because I'm forced to. When she threw her leg at Le Cirque. She said the only thing about me is this leg. It's like kind of Dr. Abbott tease.
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No, Dr. Abbott would say that except she was like clearly cravenly self-producing to get another season because she knew that she was boring and he was holding it down. He was trying not to jump. Yeah. Well, okay. I want to say something here today. Yeah. I'm so sorry, Adam Scott. The Emmy is Noah Wiley's.
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Yes. Okay. Well, I have to say I love Dr. Abbott. That's my man. Over Robbie? Maybe. You know what? When I was a child, I had the foresight to choose McSteamy over McDreamy. And I feel like that's the same dynamic right now. Okay. I have to go with my man. I have to go with Dr. Abbott. The intensity, the ferocity, I love it. The way that he's talking to Dr. Robbie, like, we can't save everyone.
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You got to move along. Sorry. I love a decisive man. Hunter? What? They're kind of us-coded. No, they really are.
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And I'm the one that comes in very direct. That's not going to happen. It's not going to. We can't make it work. So we need to move along.
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And wow, when I say MJ be the MVP. Okay, this is what happened. First, Mario and Neo opened. Neo changed hats three times. Naturally, though. As he should. Neo, which I guess I kind of underestimate. Wow, he really has a lot of hit songs. Miss Independent, Closer. He really held it down for me in eighth grade.
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Wow. No, that kind of really is us. No, I love it. I love it. Now, here's what I need to know. Yeah. Okay, a lot of people were like wanting more from the finale. But I kind of like that it's like just a regular night, you know? Yeah. Like after everything that we've been through. Do you remember the girl who tried to have an abortion? Whose aunt brought her to have an abortion?
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I forgot about her. All the way back in hour one of the shift, hour two of the shift. Like we've been through so much. Let's just end the shift on like a nice note. Like why can't we just like... Let's just have a beer in the park for fuck's sake. Let's just like kind of like be calm. Be quiet, Tiffany. I appreciated that about the finale. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Remember the adult children of that dad when they like, Dr. Robbie was like, please don't make me intimate this elderly man. Please let him like die in peace. Like there's just been so much happening. I was kind of happy that like, there's not one more like last minute cliffhanger, whatever that we're left on other than like Dana. Yeah.
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Yeah. Feels good. Okay. I want to hear from you. Yeah. Who were your favorites this season? I want you to rank the staff for me.
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The two that be king?
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Messy Myrna. I love a bitch who goes missing. Yes. It's like, I wish, I wish I could be mysterious, but I talk too much and I'm nosy. So I love a woman who just simply goes missing. You see yourself in Myrna? No, I want to see myself in Myrna. I wish I was more like Myrna. Yes, yes.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, so I'm going to say the penultimate episode didn't do a ton for me, but I loved Carrie Coon sleeping with that Russian and him immediately turning over in bed and being like, oh, so do you have cash app? So do you have Venmo? And like I said, PayPal even. He said even some just cash money. I loved it. That was hilarious. Yeah.
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That's what happens when you're just trying to sleep with someone and get back at your friend. It's never satisfying. It never works. It never works, girls.
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So what did you think of Carrie Coon's monologue in the finale?
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I do. Because, I mean, usually the tariffs are up and the artist's way is even more up. I need to shop my link, okay? You truly do.
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That is... Yeah, I guess I remember reading, maybe it was around, like, season two, whenever they were scouting season three locations, that Mike White was like, this is going to be a season of, like, renewal and rebirth and... Whatever. So, like, it's not entirely surprising that this season ends on, like, a much more sentimental note. Yeah.
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Like, the Carrie Coon monologue really felt like the thesis everything was working toward, where it's, like, actually being here is my life. Being together is, like, what this is all about. And, I mean, that's, like, nice, but not a super interesting conclusion to me. No, no. But I don't know. The three women always felt like the strongest, like, clearest arc, clearest storyline.
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Yeah. But at the end of the day, it's like, oh, of course, like I see now why those three women at dinner never seem to like really escalate to the mention at all, if you will, of New York housewives, of like the true friendship, like I will be at your throat. It always seemed like a little step behind that viciousness.
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No, if we were doing a power ranking of the three friends, let me tell you, Leslie Bibb, who said, don't invite those men back to the villa. Yeah. I will be putting my pajamas on because I'm ready to go to sleep. Her saying, we're just talking shit. Don't worry. Like, it's not that deep. And what was the other thing she did? I really thought she was going to shoot a man.
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I really thought the Russian men were going to try to rob them. And she was going to take out a gun and say, not my Kendra Scott earrings. And as a Republican, she probably knows how to pull that trigger too. Talk about get me back to God's country. She said, get me back to Austin, Texas, honey. I'm sick of this. I'm sick of being here.
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Ugh, God. God forbid your friend gets a tooth, Jim, and you never hear the end of it. Tooth. I need them off. My dentist is like, it's time.
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Yeah. It was funny. One of my friends was like, it would have been better. One of my friends like weeks ago before we saw the finale was like, Amy Lou Wood should have died from the snake bite. Oh my God. Forgot about the snake bite. That would have actually been hilarious. But it is like, that is kind of what happens.
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It's like, she loves this man so much that he is intent on killing her, even, you know, inadvertently. Which is interesting, but I don't know. It's like the melodrama of, I'm going to kill this man who killed my dad, only for him to turn out to be my dad. Then I have to kill him. And I only learn that after. It's like, yeah. Sure. You know, I'm kind of like, I'll buckle up for that.
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The male drama is funny. It's like silly. The most obvious kind of heel turn. But at the end of the day, it's like I was never really that invested in their relationship as a true to my core hater. So I don't know.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, the kind of even the contrast of son killing his father and father almost killing his son. I was like, eh, yeah. I guess Happy Father's Day is June somewhere. Is it? No, but I don't know. Was there anything else? Oh, Zion. Zion. Who wrote Zion's lines? If a black boy ever said bruh to his mother. But you know what Zion's dialogue reminded me of?
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Sarah. Well, I think about that all the time because I love You've Got Mail. Yeah. But I thought Zion was hilarious. What can I say? When Zion... Looked at his mother in the face and said, you could take this 100K and not work for a year. I said, you don't see the Trump terror? What? Didn't you just graduate from business school? Like, huh? No. No, I love a dumb jock.
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Let me say it's good to be back in New York City. Thank fucking God, actually. Oh, my. I love New York. New York makes a noise. This crazy city. No, I'm driving back to New York City. You have no idea. I made my triumphant return to Chicago. Triumphant return? Well, yes.
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I love Belinda, you know, kind of putting on her little cap and running a scheme. I love that. Sorry, Porn Chai. The Belinda turning into Tanya thing is like kind of too obvious of a read of that. What do you mean Belinda turned into Tanya? What do you mean? I feel like Gabby, what do you mean?
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I would see Alec Baldwin. You still watching the Baldwins? Of course. Watching the Baldwins. You think that Dr. Robbie is going through on the pit? Girl. Shut the fuck up. No, I would love Alec Baldwin on White Lotus. I want to see them going to Wyoming. I think that would be a lot of fun. Oh. Like a really outdoorsy destination. Yeah. That would be nice.
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Yeah. Right? Well, they live in them. For sure. I would also see like a winter. Someone in the hung up chat last night pitched like a winter destination. I was like, oh, that could be cool. Aspen, if you will. Yeah, Aspen. I also want more family stuff. I think the family stuff is really strong. Yeah.
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Oh, Running Point? Yeah. Yeah, the basketball show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's a talented actor. Crazy man, though. Crazy man.
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Well, the dual hair salon and coffee shop is giving like white woman with those like really PC kind of chunky highlights. Either so white or so black.
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I was like, wait, what? Say your other thing, because we went to get coffee another morning, and you're like, what is every coffee shop not open before 10.30 in the morning?
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King James version or New International version? Or do you know? Oh, I'm talking language you don't understand.
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This is... First of all, we're already blacklisted on YouTube. Oh, shoot. Right. We're never going to get out. This is like a throwback to the days of MTV's Next. Next Buzz. Wow. It is giving like, oh, wow. She came off of the next bus and onto Temptation Island because that is a level of unhinged that, oh, wow. Thank you for bringing up the next bus.
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Well, there's nothing explicitly against threesomes in the Bible, I guess. That's true. I don't think they really, like, got to that chapter where they're, like, faced with that. Oh, it's maybe between the lines. But there are many men with many wives. That's a big thing in the Bible as well.
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Yeah. Oh, my God. The highway. Oh, Chicago is very fast and furious. I'm going to say it's too fast, too furious. Because why were we in our friend's car on our way to a bonfire? Long story. And all of a sudden, we're like on the expressway on the North Shore Parkway. I think it's what it's called.
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This life. I mean, this life, this economy, this government. Where do you want to end? Where do we go? Okay, so how long have the couples been together? Are they like long-term or just kind of like newly first months of dating?
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When they're in line in front of you at a concert. That's the time and place. When they're sitting in front of you at a concert. Yeah. That's the perfect place.
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Wait, so he tells his girlfriend that he wants to be open to new connections and then tells a girl that he cheated on her with that he wants to be even more open to even newer connections. Absolutely. Totally. Many such cases.
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People start like braking, furiously braking. I mean, I'm talking like taillights all red, reversing, speeding off up and down. An exit ramp. Hello. Yes, I can drive. And I was like, wait, what? People see that there's like a car in front and immediately start trying to plan another car wreck. Damn near. Yeah. Backing up and turning around, driving against traffic.
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You know, as someone who's currently rewatching Sex and the City, these are not the men that Carrie Bradshaw and co. were given. Like, these are worse, significantly. And I'm talking about, I'm watching the episode where she is hooking up with a guy who lives with his parents and runs a comic book store. Oh, yeah, him. Yeah. Yeah.
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With a gentle heart and the eye of a fighter. I'm a survivor. From Oklahoma. Reba McEntire from Oklahoma.
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I'm not biracial. A through high five. She didn't lock in. I'm trying to not knock over the microphone. Jesus.
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That's an immediate reaction to the smallest accident in the world. People in Chicago say, oh, I got to get somewhere quick. I got to go get me a, what are they? Not to work. Not to work. Hot dog. Hot dog. Hoagie. Is that what it is? Hot dog was good. We had a hot dog. It was good.
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I think we're all aware that Ariana Grande turning white was a recession indicator. Early signs. But she's black at halftime. Say it. I heard for her little song called Dandelion. Yeah, yeah. Oh, she's bagging her ill bag. That was quick too. She just put down the wicked press tour. Well, listen, tariffs are up. Tariffs are up. And she said, let me put on some bronzer and get back to black.
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Because, okay, so what is it? It's the Eternal Sunshine Deluxe Edition. There's a song called Dandelion that is so classic Ariana, classic black girl Ariana.
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She is like back in her Seven Rings like era. I mean, I can't sing it. But it's giving Ariana is back to black.
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Probably not. Probably. And that would be okay. No, I love this song. I did not really care for the Eternal Sunshine era. It didn't do a ton for me, especially because Positions is my favorite Ariana Grande album. Positions and Thank U, Next. And the fact she never toured Positions. Listen, where are the JFK files about that?
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No, I'm being so serious, though. I'm being so serious.
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Yeah. It was Thank U, Next, yeah. Yes, but Positions was after Thank U, Next. Oh. Positions was, everything was upside down. I just got distracted by the Wicked press tour. She threw me for a loop. Well, listen, I'm happy. I think she's good in Wicked, you know, but Glenda, your time is over. Glenda, stand down. Put the pink away. The blonde wig is being put in the closet.
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Because it's time to get back to work. For once. We need a pop girl to rise again. Like a true vocalist pop girl. Well, Miley's doing her work. I haven't listened yet.
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I haven't had a chance. Two great tracks. I know. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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Black Miley. I'm still holding space for you, girl. I almost said she's always been white. And then immediately it was like, excuse me, the Meek Mill song, the 23.
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She's been through so much. She's been through so much. No, I'm sorry. Miley Cyrus, her child star to adult star arc career, again, would make Dr. Robbie on the pit blush. Yeah. Find another way to bring up Dr. Robbie on the pit.
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No, I got to work up here. I started going to work.
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But you know who I did? First of all, okay, we don't know if these are real or fake, but they're going viral. Apple doesn't make the emojis, but they were saying that these are like the new emojis and they're pop stars. Okay, Ariana is black in her emoji, correctly, but Iggy Azalea? I was like, who is this white blonde woman with red lipstick? That was nasty. It looked like Iggy Azalea.
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I was like, you couldn't even get like a pixie cut era, like peroxide pixie era Miley, like wrecking ball era Miley. Or even recent Grammys Miley.
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Oh, of course. Sure. I mean, any version. I mean, listen. Oh, God. What's that one Miley song? The allergy commercial. The one that I love, the one that I always want to play. The allergy commercial? Where she's outside frolicking in the... Oh, Malibu. Oh, of course. With her roots all in. Oh, God, what a song.
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I remember when you brought me to the red table because I said that Malibu walked so that Maggie Rogers could soar. And you said that's not true. And listen, I was wrong.
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We all heard the latest Maggie Rogers album, to be clear.
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So put that Iggy Azalea down. Anyway, not to advocate for a man, but we're doing pop star emojis. Where is Justin Bieber's? Where is Justin Bieber's? And I want his black version too.
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But okay, let's talk about growth. I said when I was in the hotel room, I said, I will let you know right now, I need to eat within an hour or I will have an attitude. I need to get food. I am so hungry. And guess how many hours later we ate? At least six. About five. Yeah, yeah.
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Can a girl ask for something? Well, no one's asked for a Selena emoji. I see that.
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No, I love Selena Gomez. You know, I even love her Betty Blanco album. I didn't listen to that. That like whisper. Not my business.
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Okay, I'm going to hold your hand when I say this. Okay. If you have any information about Walton Goggins and Amy Lee Wood no longer following each other on Instagram and him posting a carousel of them from the White Littles finale set to Silver Springs, I need to know more. I need to know why. No, something happened. Something happened. Not their storyline being real. Like, what the fuck?
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Except for, unlike Chelsea. Was that her name, Chelsea? Sure. Amy Lee Wood said, I'm not going down with this ship. Hold on. She said, I'm not going to die in Thailand. What?
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I've been back to Chicago since then, but one of my favorite trips as a child was going to Chicago to go to the American Girl doll store with auntie. And we had tea with my American Girl dolls. And actually, oh my God, wait. I literally, I need to post this photo. I went to the American Girl doll store. And did you ever read American Girl, the magazine? That was never my gospel or truth.
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I really did. I was so hungry. I literally had not eaten all day. Yeah, we're survivors of Chicago. Yes, but actually, I have to say one more thing. Shout out to my mom, because when I was in Chicago, I lived with my mom. Girl, I came home. I was like, who runs this house? Yeah. Because I know it's not my mother. It is Remy Whitney Lanithia Harris.
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She was out, didn't take a nap time, none of that. I was like, she was under my mom's bed, just having the time of her life. I was like, what are you doing under there? She needed her free time. It is funny that my mom was like, I'm a pretty strict black mother. Yet when the grandbaby comes over, no rules, nothing. Remy runs the house. I was like, this is crazy. Well, I'm happy that we're home.
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I did get off guard twice this week, last week. So a lot of things could have been worse. Anyway, what are we talking about this week? Oh, the White Lotus, the White Lotus finale. A little song by Ariana Grande called Dandelion. And you asked, we listened, and we locked in. We're talking about Temptation Island. So let me just say this. I love that big pregnant pause. Let me say this.
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Are you looking for a home for your worst opinions?
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We are gathered here today to talk about the White Lotus season three finale. So spoiler alert if you haven't watched. If you have watched and you didn't think that the monkeys did it, join us at the adult table. Because everyone thought the monkeys did it. Girl. We'll be at the grown folks' table.
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No. I'm kind of like totally ambivalent. I'm right down the middle. Some parts really worked for me. Some parts of the finale really didn't. Yeah. I feel like I just broke even. I didn't spend a lot. I didn't save a lot. Should we get ahead of who died? Yeah, yeah. So quick recap of the finale.
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The major points were that Timothy Ratliff was ready to kill his family, Jim Jones style, with everyone drinking the Kool-Aid. If you watch the studio, you know what I'm talking about. Then he, at the last minute, said, I want to take it back. His son, Lachlan, though...
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accidentally almost died came back to life like jesus um who suffered less than dr robbie on the pit but we'll get to that another time and then what's his name walton goggins he like he finally met up with his man who thought he thought killed his dad turned out to be his father turned out to be his father so when he shot him and then he got shot walton goggins many such cases chelsea got shot a little bit of shotgun rider till the day i die two most wanted
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And then what else happened? Oh, then the three friends were like, we love each other. Just like I fucking said was going to happen. I said, if this is a girl's trip, like any girl's trip in real life or a trip on Housewives, we fuss, fuss, fuss every day of the trip. At the end of the trip, it's like, well, I actually do love you more than anyone else in my entire life.
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Should I get down? Good Lord. I get the critiques that like his plot ultimately did not mean a ton in the big scheme of things. Mm-hmm. But I did really like him and Mook. No, no, wait, wait for it, wait for it. Okay. Mook being like, I ain't a soldier by Destiny's Child. And Gaituk being like, okay, you know what? That's not me, actually. It's time to get your money up, okay?
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Yeah, like Gaituk being like, and that's not me. And he tried to, you know, try to be a big man. Didn't really work. Mm-hmm. But he ends it all with a job that he wanted, which is being a driver. That's where he belongs. That is where he belongs. Oh, my God. I think he might be the best actor on the show, though.
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Because tell me how, as guy talk, I'm like, I don't give a fuck about this guy and his, like, whatever. Yeah. But in real life, him singing No Diggity, I was like, oh.
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Yes. It was actually a really – talk about historical fiction. Like, it was really educating the youth. Anyway, no, so I went to the American Girl doll store when I was, like, maybe eight or nine years old. And my first foray into magazine publishing, there was, like, a modeling thing where you could, like, get your photo on the cover of an American Girl magazine.
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Yeah, I liked her in The Idol. I thought she was really good.
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Totally. Sorry. You thought otherwise? Sorry. Totally. A hundred percent. I thought that was actually quite obvious. Yeah.
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god forbid i just have a big heart and open mind i don't know no no no i mean it is a small role that does not really bother me i guess what i was more confused by is like why are we spending so much time for what is ultimately not that complicated of a story you know it's like we didn't need scenes every single episode to establish that she wants him to be like oh my god what did that girl from love is mine say boss up i need you to boss up not once he's
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That's basically what happened on the show, except we spent like hours and hours building up to something that was ultimately pretty simple.
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Okay, let me say this. Can we talk about the family? Yeah, I was going to say. I was going to take it there because I loved the Piper arc. Piper, no, like I, that was funny to me. That was so funny. Piper being like, her being like, I'm coming here without a thesis, but with a dream.
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I want to dedicate my life and like live in a monastery kind of thing. And then her being like, But there's no AC and the food isn't even vegan. And she said, girl, I need some fucking Chick-fil-A. Like, that was so funny. Her looking at her mom and being like, I do need the soft life.
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But it's unfortunate. I thought that the Piper actress, Sarah Catherine Hook, was not as strong in that scene as Parker Posey looking at her with such like Parker Posey. I mean, she was giving glee. She was giving like satisfaction, smug, obnoxious. She was like, and actually at the end of the day, you are the daughter I raised. You do need to be within a Bergdorf Goodman at the end of the day.
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And I did that with two of my dolls, with Addie and another doll. It was actually really special. Anyway, so we were in Chicago. That all happened in Chicago. Yeah. We went to Chicago to lose an Ambie award. Yeah, but we won the baddest bitch award. We were looking really hot for the Ambie awards. But at the same time, if I'm going to lose an award, it better be to Stevie Wonder.
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I thought her costumes were funny in that they were like the very kind of like bland white girl, like dairy boy dresses.
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I know, but it's like, but that's someone who doesn't have a real personality or sense of direction, which is what she was trying to see. She went to the internet and said, give me a sense of direction that's not like the other white girls. And she came up with going to Thailand. I almost said Taiwan, like the mom. And wouldn't that be accurate? The Parker Posey of the group. Period.
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And I, excuse me, and I'll write for her too. Parker Posey, get behind me. The way, I'm sorry, that was like kind of the performance of the entire season. The way that she looked at her daughter and she said, and I knew you were a dumb bitch because that's how I raised you. Like she was, oh, that was so good. Yeah. A lot of people have a lot of empathy for Saxon. I'm like, yeah, whatever.
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Pause for a second and say that. A lot of people have revealed themselves to not be staircase watchers. The staircase was one of the best shows on HBO that literally no one paid attention to, made no noise. Parker Posey.
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Yes. There's one scene of Parker Posey in the staircase that truly was the performance of that year for me. I never wrote about that, but I really should have. It was staggering. She was doing such good work. Yeah.
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Recovering? Oh, no, you are recovering because you piss me off all the time and you... You said, I am not trying to please me. As a people, I am not pleased.
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All of it. I see you and I hear you and I think that you're correct. Because the way that I did that point, too, was crazy. No, I think you're right. I think it was weird that we end on them just kind of like, well, oh, shucks. They still have to go back home and not be able to afford our house anymore. I do wish we got to see the family reacting to not having no money. But I don't know.
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It's like, at the end of the day, though, the Timothy Ratliff character, just, we kept going back to that well again and again, and it never really connected or felt strong enough for me.
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Well, when I saw the blender, I said, I hope they have other glasses for those, like, Mai Tai, whatever drink they had. Pina Colada. Because a man doesn't know how to wash a dish. No. And that's exactly what happened. No.
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To Stevie Wonder, Wesley Morris, and the Obamas. That's allowed. Like, oh, sorry. Sorry. If I had to select an op, like a team of ops, it would be people that I actually respect. That's beautiful, actually. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of the highest compliment I've ever given. How was Chicago for you?
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Ever heard of it? A who? Chekhov's gun. Chekhov's blender. Uh-uh. Well, it had the poison in it and you saw it and it was like, oh my God. Oh, okay.