Phil Carter

I think ultimately what you're looking for is, can this person break down a problem into its component parts? And can they think rigorously and quantitatively about what the optimal solution is? There are ways of designing questions that get at that without putting a huge burden on the applicant.

I think ultimately what you're looking for is, can this person break down a problem into its component parts? And can they think rigorously and quantitatively about what the optimal solution is? There are ways of designing questions that get at that without putting a huge burden on the applicant.

I think ultimately what you're looking for is, can this person break down a problem into its component parts? And can they think rigorously and quantitatively about what the optimal solution is? There are ways of designing questions that get at that without putting a huge burden on the applicant.

Yeah, absolutely right. Well, and then beyond the assignment, there are a couple other things I like to do. One is I really like to ask people, what are one or two other growth teams that you really admire at other companies? And the reason I like to ask that question is, number one, it shows whether or not the person is truly passionate about this discipline.

Yeah, absolutely right. Well, and then beyond the assignment, there are a couple other things I like to do. One is I really like to ask people, what are one or two other growth teams that you really admire at other companies? And the reason I like to ask that question is, number one, it shows whether or not the person is truly passionate about this discipline.

Yeah, absolutely right. Well, and then beyond the assignment, there are a couple other things I like to do. One is I really like to ask people, what are one or two other growth teams that you really admire at other companies? And the reason I like to ask that question is, number one, it shows whether or not the person is truly passionate about this discipline.

And Harry, we were talking earlier about how the idea of a modern growth team or at least a modern product-led growth team is a relatively new idea within the last 10 to 15 years, which means that the best people in this field tend to be very passionate about it.

And Harry, we were talking earlier about how the idea of a modern growth team or at least a modern product-led growth team is a relatively new idea within the last 10 to 15 years, which means that the best people in this field tend to be very passionate about it.

And Harry, we were talking earlier about how the idea of a modern growth team or at least a modern product-led growth team is a relatively new idea within the last 10 to 15 years, which means that the best people in this field tend to be very passionate about it.

They spend a lot of their time reading Lenny's newsletter or listening to podcasts like yours or doing their own research to really hone their craft. And so if they can't name at least one or two other companies,

They spend a lot of their time reading Lenny's newsletter or listening to podcasts like yours or doing their own research to really hone their craft. And so if they can't name at least one or two other companies,

They spend a lot of their time reading Lenny's newsletter or listening to podcasts like yours or doing their own research to really hone their craft. And so if they can't name at least one or two other companies,

that they really look up to and say like, hey, so-and-so leader or this PM who I know through this network, I just think the way they think about growth problems and the creativity they bring to thinking outside the box about how to grow their business is really inspiring. That's a telltale sign that somebody really gets it and is really excited about the field. That's number one.

that they really look up to and say like, hey, so-and-so leader or this PM who I know through this network, I just think the way they think about growth problems and the creativity they bring to thinking outside the box about how to grow their business is really inspiring. That's a telltale sign that somebody really gets it and is really excited about the field. That's number one.

that they really look up to and say like, hey, so-and-so leader or this PM who I know through this network, I just think the way they think about growth problems and the creativity they bring to thinking outside the box about how to grow their business is really inspiring. That's a telltale sign that somebody really gets it and is really excited about the field. That's number one.

And then the second thing I like to ask, which maybe is more obvious is just, Give me an example or two of a non-obvious experiment you ran. One that performed really well, but maybe in a way that wasn't expected, and what you learned from it, and then how you reprioritized your roadmap on the basis of what you learned.

And then the second thing I like to ask, which maybe is more obvious is just, Give me an example or two of a non-obvious experiment you ran. One that performed really well, but maybe in a way that wasn't expected, and what you learned from it, and then how you reprioritized your roadmap on the basis of what you learned.

And then the second thing I like to ask, which maybe is more obvious is just, Give me an example or two of a non-obvious experiment you ran. One that performed really well, but maybe in a way that wasn't expected, and what you learned from it, and then how you reprioritized your roadmap on the basis of what you learned.

And then the second... And this one's harder because not everybody has a great example for this. But the second one is, tell me about an A-B test that completely failed, where your hypothesis was proven completely wrong, but in a way you didn't expect... that actually then led to a huge win.

And then the second... And this one's harder because not everybody has a great example for this. But the second one is, tell me about an A-B test that completely failed, where your hypothesis was proven completely wrong, but in a way you didn't expect... that actually then led to a huge win.