Phil Davis

And so I think they're the sort of moments and then they're the checkpoints.

And then I would talk to...

you know, the performance side could just check in and then away I'd go.

So they're just those touch points.

I think that's really how, but they've got to be across all those sort of moments for the players and just check in and that's their role.

And I think there's good benefit there.

Yeah, you know, it definitely, for me, I was nervous at the start of my career and then I had this nice patch where, it was a long patch, which was really nice, where I just felt very, like I got nervous the night, day before, night before, being like, I hope I don't lose the game for the team.

But it wasn't like, I didn't have any, like sort of,

visceral feelings about anything in sort of last three four years that 45 minutes before the game i was just i just got a bit more like yeah nervous than i ever had and then that triggered and i was fine literally once i got past that moment i was totally fine and not worried because i was a very routine based person and so once i got in the flow of the routine i was all good

No, I think it hits the mark, Jerry.

As you said, though, it depends what the detail is.

I think, you know, we can all read great sort of action plans and the like, but it's about how does it practically get executed.

I'd be envisaging...

almost like a continuous assessment of someone's mental health.

And that is what is used.

And to do that, it probably then lends itself on what's the support network to find that throughout the period of time.

I don't think it would be like, for example, I wouldn't imagine it would be a checklist

on the morning of the game that you would fill out it'd be like a rolling continuous hey are they still ticking all these things and then how does it link in with sort of the the the content that's being fed the psychologists to make those decisions but i think it makes sense i'm hoping that all it really does is ensure that there is consistent discussions at the right cadence that enables that decision to be made or continually made

I do.

I do.