Phil 'Gus' Gould

But it's been a wonderful life.

On to the next.

Yeah.

I'm too busy.

We've got to play Parramatta this week.

I don't know where Joey was half the time with some of the interpretations he puts on things.

He's got a very poor recollection of history.

He muddles up years, I think, and generations.

Anyway, that's besides the point.

What I tried to do with Origin Football was to make it different, to make it special for the players, because that's what I thought it was.

I thought Origin was on a pedestal all itself.

It's not necessarily the style of coaching you take into club football, but it's very short-term preparation.

You're bringing...

17 players who normally play against each other on a weekly basis.

They're highly talented athletes.

To pull them together to take on this Queensland thing, which when I first started Origin in 92, Queensland were extremely dominant and New South Wales had sort of not come to terms with what I thought it took to win Origin games.

So all of that was...

was deliberate on my part to make origin football different or to try and build a DNA into the New South Wales program that would somehow match what this Queensland spirit thing had created through the 80s.

And thank God they did.

I mean, I say...